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Steroid side track question

I an interested in doing a side project that has nothing to do with this site. I don’t care to take them in real life. I do have a question or two that may seem very abstract. I was wondering if anyone could help me out that is knowledgable.

I know roids can add to your physical strength. I also assume that it can make you run faster also. It packs on more mass giving you more body too. But is there any steroids that can make you more dexterous? Or improve reaction times like certain nootropic/smart drugs? Like make you act faster being quicker at a draw of a gun or a knife? This is for a geeky computer/rpg idea that is all.

Thanks in advance.
Senor Twat


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

I’ve played with steroids on and off for about 12 years and I have never ever heard of them being used specifically for reaction times. If I had to venture a guess, I would say in a roundabout way they could help mature more muscle cells and fibers, some do strengthen ligaments and joint structures which may give you a more efficient physical system to do the mechanics of a necessary or perceived reaction. I am guessing at this.

TT, some people are under the misconception that injecting anabolic (the body building type) steroids will make people grow muscle mass and increase strength. It will. But only if you’re training very hard.

IOW, say you lift wieghts and run now. And then you start injecting some winstrol-v (similar to what they illegally give race horses). Well now you go to the gym and you’ve got a little more energy to do an extra three reps. You can run an extra mile. Then every time you go back to the gym you’re building on the extra reps and adding more weight. You’re workouts are longer, more intense. That equals building muscle mass at an accelerated rate. For example, a turbo charger in a car. Turbos only work when the engine is under a load (momentum) and then it will push the engine to process air and fuel faster. But, at idle the turbo is ineffective.

I would say yes, steroids will enhance any physical activity positively. And no, mental activity would not be affected.


Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgh! ~Howard Dean Illustrations & Diagrams PE -- What's it all about? Read this.

To abstract further with you guys, how many hours and days per week should a cycle be on roids while lifting? Like you take roid “X” and you have to work out for 4 hours a day for 16 weeks as an example. How long will roids work on a person? If you miss going to the gym for a week does it all eveporate like snow under the sun overnight?

I like the turbocharger analogy very much. I am trying to take real life and abstract it for this game. Characters have attributes like Strength, Movement (how fast you can run and jump,etc..) , Body (general health, constitution, and size of the person rolled into one), and of course relexes (which all fighting, intiative, manual dexterity, and coordination rolled into one).


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

twatteaser, for this game use steriods for strength, speed and endurance boosters. For mental processing boosters you could use smart drugs. If in the game there is an element of memory or detection of enemies through alertness, smart drugs can improve both. They should be able to increase reaction times as a side effect of being much more alert with increased concentrational abilities. Adrenalin would improve reaction times along with strength speed and endurance. Adenalin can be bought under the name epinephrine. There are many powerful smart drugs and if in the game you had a booster pack filled with a combination of most of them together, the effects would be quite dramatic for detection of enemies through alertness, increased ability to remember where things are and improved reaction times due to improved concentration and alertness along with earlier detection.

http://www.nubrain-store.com/?source=google

http://www.damicon.fi/sd/

http://www.erowid.org/smarts/smarts.shtml

http://mind-brain.com/nootropic.php

http://smart-drugs.net/smart-drugs-listing.html


There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.


Last edited by Gottagrow : 01-06-2004 at .

I know that short distance runners take Winstrol and Oxandrolone.


Last edited by dafranca : 01-06-2004 at .

Winstrol improves strength without putting on bulk like many other anabolic steriods. This is why short distance runners like it. You can’t run faster if you get heavier. Winstrol is good for getting someone strong and lean. Not so good for bulking. Sure you can bulk on it, but that will be down to the strength you gain and not because of the instant muscle and water other roids put on your frame.


There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world: and that is an idea whose time has come.

>how many hours and days per week should a cycle be on roids while lifting? Like you take roid “X” and you have to work out for 4 hours a day for 16 weeks as an example. How long will roids work on a person? If you miss going to the gym for a week does it all eveporate like snow under the sun overnight? <

This is kind of confusing. There is no set parameters for a schedule. You would just follow the dosage and train like you normally would. Only now, your productivity would be far greater.
How long does it last? Well, I think, the drugs will dissipate quickly from being effective in your system. But If you still train hard you shouldn’t lose much strength and muscle. Maybe 25% of what you gained within a month. Remember, your metabolism is accelerated and your eating boatloads of food. After a cycle, your appetite will drop substantially. Thus resulting in weight loss. Hence, the appearance of being smaller.
And if you skip the gym for a week you will experience atrophy but it depends at what stage of the cycle your at.

Especially in bodybulding, diet is the other half of your success while on roids. You will train like an animal, and your body will be screaming for nourishment. Like 5000 -6000 calories a day. <—- very improtant.


Yeeeeeeeeeaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgh! ~Howard Dean Illustrations & Diagrams PE -- What's it all about? Read this.


Last edited by Ramrod : 01-07-2004 at .

As an FYI the former Eastern Block of Communist Olympic cheaters (60’s-80’s) tested for all of those qualities before they administered to them to their atheletes. In other words only the best “naturally gifted” atheletes got an edge with anabolics.

Dafranca,

Thanks for the names of those two steroids. I appreciate it.

Gottagrow,

How do these non-bulking steroids work than? I am not a gym rat at all, so please bare with me. I assume that a normal steroid works by growing more tissue or actually elongating it? These items work different? Does any of this have to do with fast twitch vs. slow twitch fibers?

Ramrod,

Thanks for the info too. What about a person that had a gene-engineered metabolism, which further recycled food intake more efficiently? I know this is pure stuff of science fiction, but it is part of the game. Could this person in theory come down to a normal diet after chemical enhancement due to his meals becoming equal to two regular ones from efficient digestion?

Dawolf,

I heard that the Eastern Euro block used to test kids to see what they were first good at it theory before wasting a dime on them learning some sport. Doing a biopsy for fast and slow twitch muscle on young kids and picking their sport for them. Same principle I guess?


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

It’s not what the cutting drugs do its what they don’t do. The best

cutting drugs are winstol and Trenbolone Acetate (Finaject).

These drugs will not increase estrogen, but do not build size like Tes,.

Here is a good link for into:

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/

Hey Ramrod, no offense, but I think that your original statement about steroids not in themself causing growth is incorrect.

Steroids increase satellite cell activity independent of microtrauma as well as growth factor activity. It’s the steroid sthat make you bigger, the exercise is just to “coax” it.

ramrod,

Steroids do a lot more than just give you energy at the gym so you can train harder; hell, any ol’ stimulant will do that.

Roids affect numerous biological reactions - including maintaining a positive nitrogen balance in the blood, suppressing cortisol levels & other catabolic hormones associated with stress, increasing testosterone receptivity within the muscles, etc., etc., etc.

Steroids are very real - so are the benefits, so are the dangers. And, yes, they provide an enormous boost in gaining muscle mass, strength & of course speed.

tt, have you read the Matadora series by Steve Perry, especially the Man Who Never Missed and The 97th Step? Main characters use tailored amphetamine viruses to greatly enhance speed.

A number of RPG systems include state of the art drugs, nano-tech, wet ware add ons, neuro net implants, etc. all of which enhance reaction time. If you want to restrict the use of drugs or have the better ones available to only certain character classes consider having a difficult to learn skill as necessary to getting full effect. This is actually a very realistic way of doing it. most ethnobotanicls and many street drugs must be “learned” to some extent.

Also a symbiotic virus that cuts reaction time is not far fetched either, wouldn’t be surprised if it already exists. What would it take? A virus that mimics myelin, or a virus that lives in the synaptic gap and conducts the impulse across the gap.

Some basic anatomy

http://www.biology.eku.edu/RITCHISO/301notes2.htm

http://www.driesen.com/neurons_&_synapses.htm


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