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Propecia problems?

Hey Dino, I wanted to let you know I stopped taking propecia over a year ago because of our talks via pm and this thread. I was debating to go back on it, because my hair is really thinning. Everytime I decide to buy some propecia I get scared because of all the negativity. I would appreciate if you and others to keep updating this thread, because I need to combat my hair loss so I don’t lose more hair.

On the bright side, I have found and been using for over a year an amazing cosmetic concealer from www.DermMatch.com I suggest you and everyone else try this product out because know one will know you use it, it looks as real as it gets. It works great for guys who have a full head of thin hair like I do especially, but works great for all types of hair loss. It is good to use along with hair loss treatments like propecia and rogaine.


Starting stats: Feb 08: [7.3 BPEL * 4.9? EG]----Now: [8.00 BPEL * 5.1-5.2 EG]------GOAL: [8 NBPEL * 6 EG]

Perception is reality.

Thank you, for posting that, Dino. Saved me a lot of work.

Guys, I’ve been studying hair loss for over 10 years now. I have read countless studies based on science. I’m not saying my word is gospel on the subject, but I certainly know a thing or two, and dare I say, more than most dermatologists you may visit.

Invictus, my initial post to you was rude. I apologize. Seems as though we’re both fighting the same battle, and I was out of line.

I’ve given a lot of info. on this site that I hope has helped others. The unfortunate truth is that one of the most effective treatments for MPB is Finasteride. It is an unfortunate truth because some people will get side effects from the drug. Not many, but some—and unfortunately, those ‘some’ tend to be the most vocal.

For those that don’t want to use Finasteride there ARE other options that MAY help. Just keep in mind that MPB is a disease with no cure available, only treatments, and the treatments we have available today, even Finasteride, aren’t too terribly effective against aggressive MPB :-(


"Look what your brother did to the door!"

Originally Posted by Clubber
Hey Dino, I wanted to let you know I stopped taking propecia over a year ago because of our talks via pm and this thread. I was debating to go back on it, because my hair is really thinning. Everytime I decide to buy some propecia I get scared because of all the negativity. I would appreciate if you and others to keep updating this thread, because I need to combat my hair loss so I don’t lose more hair.

On the bright side, I have found and been using for over a year an amazing cosmetic concealer from www.DermMatch.com I suggest you and everyone else try this product out because know one will know you use it, it looks as real as it gets. It works great for guys who have a full head of thin hair like I do especially, but works great for all types of hair loss. It is good to use along with hair loss treatments like propecia and rogaine.

Hey Bro

I hear you on being afraid of Propecia, I hate the stuff but even hate losing my hair more. I was starting to really hit a patch of bad shedding and thinning and the topical stuff just wasn’t working. So while I’m not happy taking it I already can see an improvement in my hair and while I’m not as horny I’m not having any issues in the sack. I’m hoping to thicken my hair up between now and May and than go off and hopefully maintain with the topical stuff for six months and than repeat until something better comes along.

Leather

Your welcome and your input on hair lost always gets my respect due to your vast knowledge on the subject, what I know now has been picked up over the years in a good part because of what you have shared on the forum. Someday I hoping we find the sliver bullet for preventing hair lose:) .


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
Someday I hoping we find the sliver bullet for preventing hair lose:) .

Me and you both, brother.


"Look what your brother did to the door!"

Dino

A couple of things I have found that help the libido while using fin are: Zinc picolinate, Maca, and a B Complex.

Maca works great for me. Next best thing to Viagra or Cialis IMO. I use the NOW brand.


"Look what your brother did to the door!"

Originally Posted by Leatherface
Dino

A couple of things I have found that help the libido while using fin are: Zinc picolinate, Maca, and a B Complex.

Maca works great for me. Next best thing to Viagra or Cialis IMO. I use the NOW brand.

Thanks Bro I will check out the Maca stuff although it’s almost peaceful not to be thinking about sex 24/7 like normal:)


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Haha…


"Look what your brother did to the door!"

Originally Posted by Leatherface
Invictus, my initial post to you was rude. I apologize. Seems as though we’re both fighting the same battle, and I was out of line.

No problem man. I too am passionate about the matter, for different reasons. My response was harsh as well. But we both seem to have good intentions.

Dino- Sadly, I am not mistaken. Accutane is very similiar to Finasteride. Your description about Accutane isn’t all that detailed. First off, Roche Holding didn’t take Accutane off because it was losing ground to generics. Accutane is a blockbuster drug, and due to many class-action suits, Roche Holding took it’s best selling drug off the market. Generics will soon follow. Accutane was found to cause Inflammatory Bowel Disease in some, and they took their problems to court. Sadly, many other suffers of Accutane’s side effects simply don’t know or can’t seem to associate certain problems with their Accutane use; it’s only a “lucky” select few that come to this conclusion.

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
.Swiss drugmaker Roche Holding AG stopped selling it’s acne drug Accutane in 2009 since it has reached the end of it’s life cycle and is losing ground to generic alternatives. Generics have been available since 2002.

How Accutane works
Exactly how Accutane works is not known in precise detail; however, it appears that Accutane treats acne by reducing the secretion of sebum. If less sebum is secreted it is likely that there will be less inflammation and keratinization. Roche Laboratories Inc., is the maker of Accutane acne medication.

Again, Accutane and Finasteride are both 5-Alpha reductase inhibitors, which is the enzyme that converts testosterone to dihydrotestosterone. There are two types of 5-AR: 5-AR I enzyme which is mostly found in your sebaceous glands (in your face), and 5-AR II which is mostly found in the scalp, and the prostate. Accutane targets 5-AR I enzyme, while Finasteride targets 5-AR II enzyme. However, is it completely accurate to say that Accutane only affects 5-AR-I (predominately in face)? No. Since Accutane isn’t localized in the form of a cream, or gel, it goes through the bloodstream throughout your body, destroying 5-AR, reducing the conversion of T to DHT, screwing up your HTPA, which could potentially lead to hypogonadism among other things. This is why people who take Accutane, sometimes get the side effects of Finasteride, such as a full head of hair. Also, how some people who take Finasteride have their faces clear up, become less oily, and acne go away (happen to you?). It’s more complicated than this, and I don’t want to go looking for good links, because I can’t seem to find them in my favorites, and I’m not going to post a bull-shit link. Go fishing though. I will look later and post some good ones.

Http://books.google.com/books?hl=en…etinoin&f=false


invictus

I did a search and went three pages back and can’t really find anything concrete, I need see a few things that will make me look further if you can’t find your links.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Dino read the above link. This is more complicated than just googling “Accutane and Finasteride.” It took me a long time to learn these concepts and a lot of reading was done. But check that link out.


I take saw palmetto and beta sitosterol once a day, sometimes twice, and I know it works. I missed a couple of doses this past weekend and I had more hair coming out than usual. Look into it. I don’t think it affects libido.

Well I’m off Propecia again for the last three days:( . The other night I was with my girl and I was getting head and I had my dick between her tits and wanted to cum all over her face and when I did cum it was smallest load ever, and I hadn’t had sex in about 4 days so that wasn’t it. My sex drive has been shut down also it hasn’t stopped me from having sex but I could care less if I do and my girl is starting to think it’s her. Today was the third day off and I flirted dirty text with my girl all day and all I could think about was seeing her tonight and banging her real good. I’m going to have to live with the topical stuff. This stuff worked for me but it was expensive but I have to get more. It does have some Finasteride in it but its topical so I doubt all that much gets into the blood stream.

# MINOXIDIL 5% + GREEN TEA, AZELAIC ACID, FINASTERIDE, FLUTAMIDE $138

http://www.genhair.com/


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Yep I ordered the stuff today from genhair MINOXIDIL 5% + GREEN TEA, AZELAIC ACID, FINASTERIDE, FLUTAMIDE, dam I hated spending the money but my hair looks like shit and Propecia makes me feel like less of a man and kills my sex drive and flaccid size. I’m hoping I get some good results from the topical stuff it did seem to work for me last time, the 15% minoxidil worked well also I may have to get some of that also but not until after Christmas, hopefully a well paying side job will come along and pay for my extravagant hair habits I feel like a chick when it comes to hair:) .


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Hair loss sucks. I gonna start getting hair transplants in a few years when my thinning gets worst. I suggest you save money up for those Dino. It is the only real solution in hair loss, and plus you won’t have to worry about propecia. A cosmetic concealer like DermMatch like I posted in the above link in my last post on this thread will help hide the shame of a full head of thin hair like I have glowing under the florescent lights. Do yourself a favor and look into it. It isn’t even expensive and it is a safe healthy product recommended by dermatologists and doctors for concealing after hair transplants and while using hair loss treatment drugs and topical applicants.


Starting stats: Feb 08: [7.3 BPEL * 4.9? EG]----Now: [8.00 BPEL * 5.1-5.2 EG]------GOAL: [8 NBPEL * 6 EG]

Perception is reality.

Originally Posted by Clubber
Hair loss sucks. I gonna start getting hair transplants in a few years when my thinning gets worst. I suggest you save money up for those Dino. It is the only real solution in hair loss, and plus you won’t have to worry about propecia. A cosmetic concealer like DermMatch like I posted in the above link in my last post on this thread will help hide the shame of a full head of thin hair like I have glowing under the florescent lights. Do yourself a favor and look into it. It isn’t even expensive and it is a safe healthy product recommended by dermatologists and doctors for concealing after hair transplants and while using hair loss treatment drugs and topical applicants.

I’m hoping to just keep my hair until something better comes along for hair loss or I just stop caring:) . I’m not much for surgery but I would be open to it if money wasn’t an issue like it is now.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

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