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Priapus Shot Received

PRP does not work well for all. Unhealthy people, smokers, etc.. Basically if you have low platelets you will need more PRP shots to get the same effects as person with a high level of platelets. PRP won’t help everything but most things get helped. Rotator cuff is an example where its less effective. But by in large its very helpful all over. Basically it jump starts the healing cascade with involves hyperplasia and agiogenesis the key to growth.. Jelqs and stuff just make PGE-2, which causes angiogenisis. Also TB4 added to my process, girth gains and high volume of semen. What works work and I will combine all the known practices including this to see what more happens. Good luck in your endeavors..


BTW that article about PRP is a number of years old the evidence since then proves it out even more.

Wondering why there aren’t pics in runels’ site either. And this guys claims to be able to give you about everything: libido, strength, bigger penis, stamina, genius. Some of the scientific literature he’s citing is heavily distorted.

Also it does not matter to me much but some may be interested to know that the flaccid length had significantly improved a great deal. Not that that matters at all but visually it appear nearly twice as long most of the time now.

Well Dr Woods is also behind this in La Jolla.. He is the scientific officer in all this.. Runels is his partner.. Woods is famous through out the world for stem cell research.

Originally Posted by inuic
BTW that article about PRP is a number of years old the evidence since then proves it out even more.

The most recent articles that I found about PRP therapy (those who say anything meaningfull, at least), are these two:

“Clin J Sport Med. 2011 Jan;21(1):37-45.
Platelet-rich plasma treatment for ligament and tendon injuries.
Paoloni J, De Vos RJ, Hamilton B, Murrell GA, Orchard J.

Sports Medicine Department, ASPETAR, Qatar Orthopaedic and Sports Medicine Hospital, Doha, Qatar.

Platelet-rich plasma (PRP) is derived from centrifuging whole blood, has a platelet concentration higher than that of the whole blood, is the cellular component of plasma that settles after centrifugation, and contains numerous growth factors.

There is increasing interest in the sports medicine and athletic community about providing endogenous growth factors directly to the injury site, using autologous blood products such as PRP, to potentially facilitate healing and earlier return to sport after musculoskeletal injury.

Despite this interest, and apparent widespread use, there is a lack of high-level evidence regarding randomized clinical trials assessing the efficacy of PRP in treating ligament and tendon injuries. Basic science and animal studies and small case series reports on PRP injections for ligament or tendon injuries, but few randomized controlled clinical trials have assessed the efficacy of PRP injections and none have demonstrated scientific evidence of efficacy. Scientific studies should be performed to assess clinical indications, efficacy, and safety of PRP, and this will require appropriately powered randomized controlled trials with adequate and validated clinical and functional outcome measures and sound statistical analysis. Other aspects of PRP use that need to be determined are (1) volume of injection/application, (2) most effective preparation, (3) buffering/activation, (4) injection technique (1 depot vs multiple depots), (5) timing of injection to injury, (6) single application versus series of injections, and (7) the most effective rehabilitation protocol to use after PRP injection. With all proposed treatments, the doctor and the patient should weigh up potential benefits of treatment, potential risks, and costs.

Based on the limited publications to date and theoretical considerations, the potential risks involved with PRP are fortunately very low. However, benefits remain unproven to date, particularly when comparing PRP with other injections for ligament and tendon injuries.

JAMA. 2010 Jan 13;303(2):144-9.
Platelet-rich plasma injection for chronic Achilles tendinopathy: a randomized controlled trial.
de Vos RJ, Weir A, van Schie HT, Bierma-Zeinstra SM, Verhaar JA, Weinans H, Tol JL.


Tendon disorders comprise 30% to 50% of all activity-related injuries; chronic degenerative tendon disorders (tendinopathy) occur frequently and are difficult to treat. Tendon regeneration might be improved by injecting platelet-rich plasma (PRP), an increasingly used treatment for releasing growth factors into the degenerative tendon.

To examine whether a PRP injection would improve outcome in chronic midportion Achilles tendinopathy.

A stratified, block-randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial at a single center (The Hague Medical Center, Leidschendam, The Netherlands) of 54 randomized patients aged 18 to 70 years with chronic tendinopathy 2 to 7 cm above the Achilles tendon insertion. The trial was conducted between August 28, 2008, and January 29, 2009, with follow-up until July 16, 2009.

Eccentric exercises (usual care) with either a PRP injection (PRP group) or saline injection (placebo group). Randomization was stratified by activity level.

The validated Victorian Institute of Sports Assessment-Achilles (VISA-A) questionnaire, which evaluated pain score and activity level, was completed at baseline and 6, 12, and 24 weeks. The VISA-A score ranged from 0 to 100, with higher scores corresponding with less pain and increased activity. Treatment group effects were evaluated using general linear models on the basis of intention-to-treat.

After randomization into the PRP group (n = 27) or placebo group (n = 27), there was complete follow-up of all patients. The mean VISA-A score improved significantly after 24 weeks in the PRP group by 21.7 points (95% confidence interval [CI], 13.0-30.5) and in the placebo group by 20.5 points (95% CI, 11.6-29.4). The increase was not significantly different between both groups (adjusted between-group difference from baseline to 24 weeks, -0.9; 95% CI, -12.4 to 10.6). This CI did not include the predefined relevant difference of 12 points in favor of PRP treatment.


Among patients with chronic Achilles tendinopathy who were treated with eccentric exercises, a PRP injection compared with a saline injection did not result in greater improvement in pain and activity.

Originally Posted by inuic
I have seen that info and its meaningless, but my results speak for themselves anyway.. Nay sayers be gone you are just fools. Sorry if you can’t realize reality or the science of PRP you are just ignorant. Shots did not even hurt, the science is sound. Sorry about you. He has big backers in science and real doctors pay him and take him seriously and get trained by him. So please save that crap, and let the science and results do the talking and thats it, the rest is BS!

HAHA Mine grew faster then yours did and with less effort! Do I have to stoop to that?? LOL Reality speaks for itself as do real results, thats all that matters! Oh PRP has been proven 100% safe for over 30 year, deal with that!


To say that sanctions from the state, and the FDA are meaningless shows some ignorance on YOUR part, sir. The “sound science” you speak of includes a mechanism of action that even the doctor himself says he doesn’t know/understand. Once again, it sounds as if you are speaking of ignorance. Who are his big backers? (I’m curious to hear who they are, is all.)

Oh, PRP has been proven safe and effective for tendon injuries for years. Using it in the penis has NOT been a “proven” method. Keep in mind, PRP is also pushed by a FFT phalloplasty doctor or two. And we all know the reputation that FFT has, even when PRP is used as part of the procedure.

And since you DID decide to “stoop to that”: my cock is bigger than yours, and I haven’t had to pay some guy with a sketchy reputation in the medical field thousands of dollars to stick needles in my cock and in my wife. (See, that’s not nice. No one wants talk like that floating around here. We like to keep a positive environment here.)

Now that I’ve addressed all of the above- relax a bit. You will get a lot more helpful conversation around here, and a lot more positive responses from people if you save the attitude. We’ve got a good group of guys here that are more than willing to help you reach any goal you set for yourself. It’s very rare that I respond the way I have above, but your lashing out when all I was trying to do was provide you with some information was completely unwarranted. If I had seen a doctor, or was considering seeing a doctor that had been accused of doing the things that Dr. Runels is accused of doing, I would want to know. So doesn’t it stand to reason that I would want other people to have that same information available to them? Nothing to get crazy about.

Enjoy your stay here at Thunder’s Place. Hope you meet your goals, whether it be through jelqing or through injections from this fellow.

Starting measurements (August 2009): BPEL: 7.625in EG:6.25in BPFSL: 7.5in flaccid BP length:4in

Current measurements (Oct. 2012): BPEL: 8in EG: 6.625in BPFSL: 8.375 in flaccid BP length: 6in

Current goal: BPEL: 9in EG: 7in

Ok, let’s stop personal remarks here.

Originally Posted by inuic
I am a patient not a doctor.. My results are what I go by yes, and the science and evidence around PRP. Skeptics just waste time most of the time and add hardly any value to the sum of human knowledge ever, so take that into account, these types hardly ever add useful knowlege to anything. Attitude is there as I don’t take kindly to having what I say taken for anything other then what I say. Call me a liar now. Anyway yes its early, but the science will be brought forward, there is something to PRP. My wife got it in her face and its making it change alot. She got the oshot and cums way faster and is more tight and got rid of her bout of incontenance, so PRP changed her size to. If you don’t believe to bad for you cause its real. Anyway just keep watching for more evidence then nay sayers etc. What else can YOU do? LOL I got my results and my wife likes it, to see it nearly grow before our very eyes day to day. Not seen any other method work as quickly. My skin even got softer on my butt. And made me get really easy erections that were rock hard, which alone is a benifit worth having even if you did not grow, the refratory period was changed for me and nearly anything would make me rise. This is new so keep your eyes open then for more to come.. I won’t be the last.

Skeptics keep us honest and from being taken advantage of.

You come across as being much more invested in this method than just a patient in this method which sets off red flags here.

If this is all new to you how can you defend it so fiercely?

Keep an open mind and a closed wallet... unless it's open to making a donation!

PRP is not new to me but the priapus shot was. I have studied it fiercely because I am a skeptic, but once I find out the facts I’m good. I worked for me and still is, its effect last 3 months. And although DR Runels has a bad report, Dr Woods does not. I have invested myself in the knowledge of how the healing cascade works. Sorry for attitude but that information about the Dr was useless to me, stuff like that goes down all the time. But its not him its the theory and if you understand why the penis patent gets results and the mechanisms of action you will start to have the ahhah moments and see the light of whats going on with any and all penis growth, as its all based on common factors, such a Prostagdalins, Hormones, and growth factors, etc..

I’m not selling anything but the facts as they happened for me.. Thats free..

P.S. Not that much bigger, but ok.. Lets see if it stays that way, I’m on your tail.. LOL Here I cum.

Skeptics keep us honest and from being taken advantage of.


But for me most of their time is waste.. But I see the slight merits of your point and its duly noted.

P.S I was warned about these site and that I would be harshly attacked for sharing this info, I didn’t want to believe that hope I am wasn’t too wrong.

Dr. Woods who?

Is there any published peer reviewed paper about effects of PPT on the human penis?

People who are both open and skeptical assist the expansion of knowledge best, not one how is to much of either.


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