Perhaps an odd question about Viagra+Cialis.

Hello people. I was wondering if Viagra or Cialis may aid PE? I mean Im 20 years old,I can get an 11 out of 10 rock hard Erection I want to. But Ive heard some guys over at MOS using these “drugs” for Girthwork and they had superb results.

Any comments on this?

I know Big Girtha used Cialis for his girthwork and had “superb results” aswell.

Sorta on the same line: Where is All Day Pharmacy located (Country)? There generic products are very economical.

I’ve posted before about the active ingredient in Horny Goat Weed called icariin being a PDE-5 inhibitor (like viagra/cialis). If you bought a standardized extract and took a dose before PE it’d have the same sort of effect, if you wanted to test.

Where would you buy this?

Holland and Barrett do Goat Weed, I’ve bought it before, did make a difference, though I wasn’t aware it had PDE-5 properties. I wonder what the difference in potencies are?

You can buy Horny Goat Weed at GNC, Vitamine Shoppe and thousands of health food stores around world.

I was asking about the ‘standardized extract’ (presumably of icariin) that R Dopa was referring to.

It may help, but at 20 you don’t want to build a dependency on it and it’s not hard to do.

‘Dependency’ is misleading as a term.

At 20 it would be very unusual for someone to actually need any of these drugs (from a physiological standpoint), but someone could potentially want them and, as a matter of practice, become overly reliant on them (this is most likely what Dino means, unless I’m misunderstanding him. Dino?).

This is not to say that, if that same 20 year old were to put the drugs away after use, they would be unable to perform without them (again, speaking purely physiologically).

None of these sorts of drugs are addictive and I don’t believe there is any evidence that if they are used (or even over used) that they become physiologically necessary for function; if your equipment works without them, then it will continue to work without them - even if one does use them (barring injury or some other unforeseen condition).

What someone’s mind might believe is another story.

Belief can be a powerful thing; if someone believes they can’t play baseball without their lucky rabbit’s foot the literal truth of the belief can be immaterial.

I don’t know that I’d recommend these drugs to 20 year olds. When I was twenty a stiff breeze or a random thought could get me to attention.

I’d also point out to our younger member that it’s also okay if you aren’t always 100% ready.

Thanks for the responses.

I may try some for PE purposes because the fact that Im already ingesting "EQ rasing" ingredients from the food I eat(Pumkin seeds,Garlic etc.).

Whats the difference?

Mr.Happy,

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I’ve found it mostly on bodybuilding sites, since icariin has testosterone mimetic properties (I don’t know what that actually equates to in muscle gains if anything). I usually buy 20% icariin standardized extract, although you can get anything up to 98%.

I second Dino and Mr.Happy. Bad idea. Even if it helps to gain girth (not verified, just an assumption), it will eventually ruin your health on the long run. You may become mentally dependent and experience side effects. Not worth the risk!