mikewhit, Yeah I just noticed that too! I do believe that it’s because I’m in Canada that shipment took so long. The Border is hell these days! I think the US is stickin it to us for not joining the fight in Iraq. I just got a package from another member here at Thunder’s who lives down there, and he sent it several weeks ago too.
Andrew, Where is this NOX3 you speak of, the only other product I saw was the NoX2 Overnight Extender.
Speaking of which, has anyone tried this NoX2 Overnight Extender or know anything about it? It would be interesting to use this in addition to NOX2, but that might be too hardcore!
“NOX2 Overnight Extender is taken at night, when the bodies own production of NO is likely to be at its lowest. L-arginine complex, which is transported into endothelial cells to produce NO, and L-citrulline-HP, which is transported by a different mechanism and then is recycled into L-arginine, which the body can then use to create more NO. This different mechanism is important because when the L-arginine transporter sees to much L-arginine, it stops absorbing, so less L-arginine in the system means less NO production. Furthermore, NOX2 enhancers may help reduce the loss of nitrogen and enhance the nitric oxide synthase, an enzyme used to convert arginine to NO. NOX2 Overnight Extender is unique compared to other products in the market.” ~BodyBuilding.com
So what is this cap on Arginine? How much can you take before your body cuts of absorption?(at which point your just wasting it!) Or is this just a bullshit sales pitch? :furious:
I can get L-Arganine for a rather cheap price relative to NOX2. Is NOX2 really that much better than L-Arganine considering NOX2 is composed of L-Arganine?
Not the way I understood it, maybe I read it wrong?
My understanding was that L-arginine is metabolised into NO (Nitric Oxide) so you lose some of the effect in the metabolism. So if you take it as NO, it avoids that step and so is more efficient.
I see, that makes sense. Cutting to the chase, so to speak.
No when you take NOX2 it is not taking straight NO, it is still taking arginine, but it isn’t pure arginine, it’s in a more complex form so that it breaks down and is distributed out slower, thereby allowing your body to absorb more of it.
NOX2 contains Arginine alpha-ketoglutarate(A-AKG) and Arginine-Ketoisocaproate(A-KIC) 3000mg per dose.(3 tablets)
here’s what they say about the “Advance Delivery System” NOX2 uses: “Advanced deliver system (A-DS) optimizes (A-AKG) and (A-KIC) in the body. Through a bioactive process, Beta Cyclodextrin, Cephalins, Xanthum and Inulin are combined with NoX2 to form a unique blended complex, which acts as the “carrier” for the NoX2 “cargo” helping it to be effectively transported throughout the body and delivered directly into the bloodstream. This process also serves as an extended release mechanism, keeping target issues saturated with more consistant levels of desired nutrients and extending benefits (over a 10 hour period) long after other supplements have been spent or wasted.” ~bodybuilding.com
The Vitamin World near me was selling 180 caplet bottles of NoX2 for 64$, but had a 40% off sale yesterday for members, bringing it down to a little over some of the prices mentioned on the internet. I didn’t want to wait for shipping so this worked out well for me.
Redwood, Thanks for clearing up my misinformation regarding the NO. That’s what I love about this place. If one person doesn’t know the answer, some one else surely will!
The link to the Universal NOX3 is here. I bought it (including shipping) for a little over half the price I found it on any Australian website!
Wow that’s awesome, I think I’ll be buying NOX3 for my next supply! :up:
It’s weird how I has searching under brands, Pinnacle, and it listed NOX2 and the Extender, but not NOX3. Maybe they were trying to hide it cause it so damn good! Thanks for the link Andrew! ;) $27.95! Sweet deal!
Edit: I just noticed it isn’t by Pinnacle, it’s from a company called Univeral it appears, that’d be why I couldn’t find it before.