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Just started supplements today for better load

I just started taking
1477 mg L-Arginine Hydrochloride
900 mg L-Ornithine Hydrochloride
1200 mg L-Lysine Hydrochloride
100 mg Zinc

I am hoping to get more load, and to shoot further. Has anybody had any success with this combination? If so, how quickly did you see the effects? Today is my first day and i’m not expecting that I’ll go home tonite and accidently shoot it into her eyes, but if it is a few days, maybe I can hold off on sex for 3 or 4 days and see if this and the holding out combined will really blow her away (pun intended).


Starting: 5.75" EBPL x 5" EG 10/10/03 Current: 6" EBPL x 5" EG 11/6/03 Goal: 8" EBPL x 6" EG

esac,

I think 100 mg Zinc is a bit too much and what about the 1477 mg L-Arginine Hydrochloride? How do you measure that?
It’s a supplement with 1477mg in it , right?


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Originally Posted by esac
Today is my first day and i’m not expecting that I’ll go home tonite and accidently shoot it into her eyes, but if it is a few days, maybe I can hold off on sex for 3 or 4 days and see if this and the holding out combined will really blow her away (pun intended).

Now this funny, I laughed for awhile off of this post. Thanks. Back to the topic, Esac, 100mg of zinc is too much, 30mg to 50mg is more than enough.You don’t want to have an upset stomach or diarrhea. As for the arginine, you don’t want the hydrochloride version. It does not absorb well. You should purchase the free form arginine. I would add some lecithin and Vitamin E to your combo and your loads should be overwhelming. Don’t forget to kegel.
Oh Esac, drink a shit load of water too!

AlexW

Originally Posted by mcnitro
esac,

I think 100 mg Zinc is a bit too much and what about the 1477 mg L-Arginine Hydrochloride? How do you measure that?
It’s a supplement with 1477mg in it , right?

Right, it is a supplement. I am taking Vitamin Worlds “Naturally Inspired” brand which has L-Arginine, L-Ornithine and L-Lysine all in one. I started at 4 tablets per day, which according to the label says 1447mg L-Arginine, 900mg L-Ornithine, 1200mg L-Lysine.

What do others take for Zinc ? Does Zinc have any overdose problems?


Starting: 5.75" EBPL x 5" EG 10/10/03 Current: 6" EBPL x 5" EG 11/6/03 Goal: 8" EBPL x 6" EG

Originally Posted by esac
Right, it is a supplement. I am taking Vitamin Worlds “Naturally Inspired” brand which has L-Arginine, L-Ornithine and L-Lysine all in one. I started at 4 tablets per day, which according to the label says 1447mg L-Arginine, 900mg L-Ornithine, 1200mg L-Lysine.

What do others take for Zinc ? Does Zinc have any overdose problems?

Esac,

This isnt good because the Lysine and Arginine cancel eachother out. Take Lysine and Arginine seperately, to get good results. Otherwise your throwing your hard earned cash in the :trash:

Alex

Originally Posted by AlexW
Esac,

This isnt good because the Lysine and Arginine cancel eachother out. Take Lysine and Arginine seperately, to get good results. Otherwise your throwing your hard earned cash in the :trash:

Alex

What do you mean on cancelling each other out? If I take arginine in the morning and lysine at night, then it is good and won’t cancel each other out ?

Also, how bad is the hydrochloride? I am hoping I can just take it back to Vitamin World and tell them that I had a bad reaction on it and my doc said to take free base instead, and I hope they’d just give me a refund, but if not .. then I pretty much just toss it in the trash like you said ?


Starting: 5.75" EBPL x 5" EG 10/10/03 Current: 6" EBPL x 5" EG 11/6/03 Goal: 8" EBPL x 6" EG

Take no more than 15-20 mg of supplemental zinc or you will run into trouble.

Originally Posted by esac
What do you mean on cancelling each other out? If I take arginine in the morning and lysine at night, then it is good and won’t cancel each other out ?

Also, how bad is the hydrochloride? I am hoping I can just take it back to Vitamin World and tell them that I had a bad reaction on it and my doc said to take free base instead, and I hope they’d just give me a refund, but if not .. then I pretty much just toss it in the trash like you said ?

If the Arginine and Lysine are separate supplements then you are fine. Just dont purchase those two combined and dont take them at the same time. I think I misread your previous post about them being all in one. My bad.

As for the hydrochloride, it simply doesnt absorb well as the free base arginine. You would have to take much more of it to get the desired results. Vitamin World is good with exchanges, so take it back. I dont think you should however, your loads will increase regardless. Next time purchase the free base form.

Do a search on the Internet in regards to free base arginine compared to the hydrochloride version. You’ll learn alot.

AlexW

Originally Posted by AlexW
If the Arginine and Lysine are separate supplements then you are fine. Just dont purchase those two combined and dont take them at the same time. I think I misread your previous post about them being all in one. My bad.

AlexW

No you didn’t misread. The Arginine and Lysine are combined (3 in 1) with the Ornithine. So I guess back to Vitamin World I go to exchange it.


Starting: 5.75" EBPL x 5" EG 10/10/03 Current: 6" EBPL x 5" EG 11/6/03 Goal: 8" EBPL x 6" EG

Good luck with the L-Arginine. 2000 mg a day gave me the shits. I had to cut it back to 500 mg.

Horse


"It's not the getting there but the going that's gotta be good." Varg

Horsehung

You would increase your loads if you simply drank more water and exercised regularly.


JAPP

Observe... learn from other people's mistakes.

cool pic, horsehung

Don’t forget to take that stuff before you eat so it can digest. Protein kills L-Arginine. Or thats what I’ve read, anyone else able to back that up?

I don’t believe that protein kills l-arg. Caffeine and other stimulants will diminish its effects though. Taking it on an empty stomach may aid in absorption because it has no other aminos to compete with.

Thanks, grasshopper.


"It's not the getting there but the going that's gotta be good." Varg

Horsehung

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