Holy Grail of Cum Load Increase

Not going to see much change unless you up your water intake. For me it is the day of.. If I start it longer than two days out my balls will ache.

Hey all. It’s been a long time since I posted and I doubt if anyone knows me or remembers my previous posts. But I wanted to post today and share what my current stack is and lessons/experiences I’ve learned from stacking since 2015. I hope this helps anyone curious about starting a stack or persons interested in refining their current stack further.

First off, this is my current stack:

GNC Triple Lecithin

(This is cheap and readily available. I took Sunflower Lecithin for a time but stopped and here’s why. Somewhere in the almost 200 pages of posts in this thread, there was some very interesting information shared about Soy vs Sunflower Lecithin. I don’t remember the specifics but I do remember after reading it, and doing my own research, it convinced me enough to switch back to Soy. And to anyone waving a red flag, from what I recall, the products are refined enough that Phyto-estrogens (hope I spelled that right) are almost non existent. Please though, if anyone has credible information to refute my claims, share indeed. I’m always interested in learning as much as I can when it pertains to refining my stack for personal use.)

Steel-Libido by Irwin Naturals

(Blended formula with some heavy hitters like L-Arginine, Ashwaghanda, Yohimbe and others. I mainly take it for Libido but volume increase goes hand in hand with some of these ingredients. Also, taking the ingredients separately would be more potent. I stick to this formula because of ease of availability and use. It’s at all major retailers and drug stores. There’s also a similar formula by what appears to be the same company called Libido Max. It doesn’t have Maca but it is about 30% less expensive than Steel-Libido. Sometimes I will switch between the two because I already take a Maca supplement and the cost savings adds up.)

Steel-Libido RED by Irwin Naturals

(I take this for Blood Flow but it does have L-Citruline in it. L-Citruline is what your body converts L-Arginine into if I’m not mistaken. More on this later.)

Maca Root by GNC

(Maca has a lot of benefits. Seems to be a hit or miss for some people though. Worth a try if you’re just starting a stack.)

Zinc

(A heavy hitter for stack increases. Pretty much a staple. How much you take is dependent on your weight and eating habits. Too much Zinc can be harmful though. Best to start at 20mg and work your way up if you so choose. Nothing over 50mg.)

Amino Acids (L-Lysine, L-Carnitine)

(According to my research, amino acids are found in great quanitities in the heads of sperm. There is supposed to be a correlation between how healthy you sperm are and how much semen you produce.)

That’s about all I take. And of course water. Lots of it.

Now I want to briefly touch on supplements I’ve taken in the past and that I’ve now shyed away from:

Fenugreek, Saw Palmetto, Pygeum

(These supplements are shown to stimulate Testosterone production as well as prostate health, both of which can increase volume. The thing you have to look out for though is, they are DHT blockers. They prevent your body from converting testosterone into a much more potent form. So it’s a double-edged sword. Personally, I stay away from them unless I really want to put on a display of male virulence, in which case I’ll take them for a short time and cycle off immediately. I do not recommend these for long term use unless you are age 50 or older, in which case these three ingredients can be very beneficial to you.)

There is also Longjack, LJ100, Tongkat Ali. The ingredient itself in a pure, extracted form can be expensive which is why I shy away from it. You also have to cycle on and off this ingredient more so than others. I would say if you can afford it or have access to a good supply with good prices, I would definitely include it with your stack because the benefits are very noticeable.)

Damiana is another ingredient which I’ve taken before but stopped taking because local availability is quite low. I did notice the usual effects while taking it (perceived increase in size of testicles). How much of an impact that had on volume has yet to be determined because of all the other supplements I was trying at the time and also availability issues. The increase in size is something peculiar and also fascinating and if I had my way, I would take this supplement just for that. I plan on doing more testing with this ingredient in the future.)

That’s about all I have to say pertaining to my stack and experiences. I hope this helps or answers questions and I encourage any questions, feedback or criticism. This is a learning process for anyone. It’s not an exact science and no one is a master. But we all do it for the same reason. And it’s that satisfying feeling of pulling out and spraying all over and hearing “Wow, that’s a lot of cum!”

For those taking Zinc, is anyone afraid that taking 50mg of Zinc daily for some period of time is dangerous or at least bad for you?

If yes, why?
If no, why?

And are you also taking additional Copper with the Zinc?

If you have been following the holy grail stack, did you go for a full 50mg of Zinc? And for how long at a time (cycling)?

Perhaps this is why I don’t see a huge difference in my load, I haven’t dared go above 30mg and not for more than a week at a time when I did.

I’m starting to think that nothing can really be done to increase ejaculate volume significantly and consistently.

Everything done on this site is potentially dangerous and harmful!
This cannot be stressed enough! There are risks, either for your general health or for your penis, and this thread is no exception…

Before embarking on any journey, it is important to evaluate as many angles and aspects and to question yourself why you are doing this, and what is the trade-off and weigh the pros and cons.
If you are afraid of doing something, it’s probably not a good sign. Yes, everything referenced here has potential side effects. On top of that, people blend things without necessarily understanding the interactions fully, myself included. This is why it is important to be as informed as possible, to consult professionals, and to listen to your own body. As far as I know, no one here is a trained specialist, and many of us rely on personal experiences of other users. But there is no safer way than to avoid doing anything that is recommended here if you are not sure of what you are doing.

30 mg of zinc for a week was probably sufficient to influence volume somewhat, but then again so many factors come into play that it’s impossible to say for certain why it hasn’t worked for someone.

Right on!

Never take anything (especially on the Internet) as the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

In my quest for the holy grail of cumshot on the Internet I have come across people who have claimed to be taking 100, even 150mg of zinc, which is ludicrous.

I realized some time ago that I’m already getting about 19-21mg of zinc through my daily vitamins, on top of that I believe I have a fairly decent diet habit and am getting additional zinc through natural food sources. I did pop an extra 15mg yesterday, and today. And will be checking tonight with the misses if anything out of the ordinary will come out.

I also know that I am stressed and I do exercise regularly, which I believe can help deplete zinc from the body. I am going to ask my physician to run a blood test and check whether I’m getting too much zinc (can’t wait to explain the reason why when asked.. :)

One thing from the holy grail stack I will never touch again, pygeum, that stuff did absolutely nothing except lower my libido.

Enough of rambling.

Cheers!

Awesome thread guys. I was able to make some serious load gains with the 50mg zinc and 1200mg lecithin. I would say that I went from a solid 6 roper to a 10. I do not edge or anything like that either. I am sure if I did the amount would go up even more.

Duncan, how long did it take to see improvements for you? How much water do you consume daily?

I mentioned this over here what my whole stack is -> My precum increasing stack 02072019

But I’m taking Pygeum, Sunflower Lecithin, Maca, Longjack, LJ100, Tongkat Ali, and others. Do check over there my whole stack I’m experimenting with. I also abstained the WHOLE month of Jan to see what results I’d get.. Sadly in week 2 I got the flu.. So wasn’t that great.

I would cycle month to month with zinc. When you’re taking it make sure to counter it with magnesium.

I took the original Holy Grail stack and there were no effects at all. No change to pre-cum. No change to cum. No change in any feelings (sensations or horniness.) I added Maca and again, no changes in anything.

Same. I tried a lot of this stuff in various ways at various times over the years. I chalk it up to all my health problems interfering.

Well, fatdad, I have no health issues (that I know of). I am a healthy weight, exercise regularly, eat well and don’t smoke. So, health problems aren’t interfering in my case. It is interesting that some get amazing results and others don’t react at all.

I definitely notice a difference while I take Lethicin, Pygmeum, Tribulus. My girlfriend does more than me. She’s a sport though, and kinda laughs when she gets a big faceful. :-) I love cumming copiously on a pretty face, and Lecithin definitely makes the biggest difference (combined with hydration!).

I’ve been taking the original stack recommended on page one (I.e., 1000mg L-Arginine, 50mg Zinc, 200mg Pygeum, and 1200mg Lecithin) for a couple weeks and, in conjunction with the newbie routine, have already experienced increased volume, libido, and flaccid size.

Here’s the problem - the pills sometimes prompt nausea and stomach pain. Taking them with food and throughout the day usually helps but doesn’t always entirely negate it. I’ve tried to isolate which pills are the problem. I can’t be sure, but it seems like Zinc and Lecithin may be the culprit(s). Any other tips to avoid the nausea?

Zinc is definitely difficult to digest. ALWAYS have that with food. Are you taking everything at once? What are you taking for lecithin?

I would recommend taking each individually to isolate the cause.

You can take l-arginine between meals.

Maybe try lecithin and zinc in the morning with food. Maybe switch to sunflower instead of soy if that doesn’t work for you, or leave it out altogether to see if you can stomach the zinc. What form of zinc? and are you taking it everyday? I would recommend Now Zinc Picolinate, every other day. For example: I do Mon, Wed, Fri. The dose is sufficient to carry over the odd days.

You can take arginine in its pure form in between meals. I recommend l-citrulline for a longer lasting effect.

Take Pygeum with a meal preferably, and with lunch or supper. I personally wouldn’t take it at all.