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Originally Posted by Inseminator
This has been mentioned before in this thread but Pygeum blocks enzymes that aid in production of DHT (dihydrotestosterone), which is a much more potent form of testosterone. In other words, you’re effectively gimping your manhood for increased pre-cum levels.

Newcomers, do your own research before blindly swallowing pills. I will not be taking Pygeum anymore.

Where did you read this?

Originally Posted by _yousl3ss
Where did you read this?

A medical study done in the 90’s. We’re not talking about anything major here. Personally, I’d rather not take a chance.

Now, if your over age 50 then Pygeum is actually very beneficial for you.

Originally Posted by Heidi25
Thanks for all the input friends! Hubby is at a full two weeks today of his abstaining. He said he feels horny as a teenager and like his testicles feel tingly? He wants to do our experiment tomorrow morning and I said that’s ok.
I’ll let you know soon how it goes. Unless I get lucky and go into labor tonight!
Hehe..

Heidi, we are anxiously awaiting the results!


Started 11/2014 6" BPEL x 4" MEG (Ballpark #'s)

As of 01/2017 7 1/2" BPEL x 4 7/8" MEG

18 Month Comparison Pic

Good morning!

Sorry I didn’t get to post yesterday our results. Nice and early in the morning we got down to business. I started out by using flavored lube and completely nude of course, I gave hubby a long slow handjob. I would stop for about 5 minutes and then start rubbing again. This was about 20 minutes and hubby was dying! I then told him to stand at the edge of the bed and I kneeled in front of him. I slowly sucked on his testicles and then started actually doing the bj. After the slow build up he could literally only last about 5 minutes of me sucking. He pulled it out and a huge spurt shot hitting the roof of my mouth kind of startling me. Now it was crazy and spurt after spurt came out. Hubby said he counted 8 spurts! It hit my face, top of my head, my nose, my right eyebrow, completely covered my mouth and also in my mouth . A decent amount also slid down his peter to his balls which I scooped off with my fingers and ate. It started dripping off my mouth and over my belly while hubby took a pic with his phone. Lol. I have to say it was definitely the most I’ve seen.

Adding my 2 cents.

Avoided Arginine due to me being prone to cold sores. Did not take Pygeum either as I don’t want to mess with my prostate/already get lots of pre-cum

Tried regular doses of zinc and (normal, not sunflower) lecithin for 3 weeks (OG stack) and saw no noticeable differences in manual output (tried every 2-3 days). Libido seemed to disappear during this time (I read this was a side effect of the Lecithin afterwards) and I was constipated daily.

Have been off for 3 weeks now and everything is back to normal.

I may attempt Zinc/Lecithin again to see if the problems repeat or it was due to other things going on with me at the time.


Last edited by ZepZapZop : 11-21-2016 at .

Your husband is a lucky guy Heidi. And it seems to me that you’re pretty lucky too, lol!

Originally Posted by Heidi25
Good morning!

Sorry I didn’t get to post yesterday our results. Nice and early in the morning we got down to business. I started out by using flavored lube and completely nude of course, I gave hubby a long slow handjob. I would stop for about 5 minutes and then start rubbing again. This was about 20 minutes and hubby was dying! I then told him to stand at the edge of the bed and I kneeled in front of him. I slowly sucked on his testicles and then started actually doing the bj. After the slow build up he could literally only last about 5 minutes of me sucking. He pulled it out and a huge spurt shot hitting the roof of my mouth kind of startling me. Now it was crazy and spurt after spurt came out. Hubby said he counted 8 spurts! It hit my face, top of my head, my nose, my right eyebrow, completely covered my mouth and also in my mouth . A decent amount also slid down his peter to his balls which I scooped off with my fingers and ate. It started dripping off my mouth and over my belly while hubby took a pic with his phone. Lol. I have to say it was definitely the most I’ve seen.

You’re a trooper Heidi. Thanks for the story and all the details!


Started 11/2014 6" BPEL x 4" MEG (Ballpark #'s)

As of 01/2017 7 1/2" BPEL x 4 7/8" MEG

18 Month Comparison Pic

Originally Posted by Inseminator
A medical study done in the 90’s. We’re not talking about anything major here. Personally, I’d rather not take a chance.

Now, if your over age 50 then Pygeum is actually very beneficial for you.

Ahhhh okay, gunna cut it out too and look more into it, thanks for the info!

Originally Posted by Inseminator
This has been mentioned before in this thread but Pygeum blocks enzymes that aid in production of DHT (dihydrotestosterone), which is a much more potent form of testosterone. In other words, you’re effectively gimping your manhood for increased pre-cum levels.

Newcomers, do your own research before blindly swallowing pills. I will not be taking Pygeum anymore.

So Pygeum can be bad if you really don’t “need” it? I always get paranoid when I read stuff like this hehe.

I’m currently on Zinc, Lecithin and Selen.

Originally Posted by sippalnomah
So Pygeum can be bad if you really don’t “need” it? I always get paranoid when I read stuff like this hehe.

I’m currently on Zinc, Lecithin and Selen.

I wouldn’t take Pygeum unless you’re over 50, in which case it’s very beneficial.

Originally Posted by ZepZapZop
Adding my 2 cents.

Avoided Arginine due to me being prone to cold sores. Did not take Pygeum either as I don’t want to mess with my prostate/already get lots of pre-cum

Tried regular doses of zinc and (normal, not sunflower) lecithin for 3 weeks (OG stack) and saw no noticeable differences in manual output (tried every 2-3 days). Libido seemed to disappear during this time (I read this was a side effect of the Lecithin afterwards) and I was constipated daily.

Have been off for 3 weeks now and everything is back to normal.

I may attempt Zinc/Lecithin again to see if the problems repeat or it was due to other things going on with me at the time.

My Libido vanished too and came back after cycling. That’s why I stopped taking Soy Lecithin, which increases estrogen and decreases testosterone.

If you plan on taking Lecithin, go with the sunflower variety.

Originally Posted by Inseminator
I wouldn’t take Pygeum unless you’re over 50, in which case it’s very beneficial.

I’m just wondering how it can be beneficial if you’re over 50 since it blocks the production of testosterone. It seems to me that blocking the production of testosterone wouldn’t be beneficial if you’re over fifty. Most folks over 50 already have decreasing testosterone levels so if pygeum inhibits testosterone production, why is it beneficial?

Unless it has other benefits, like perhaps to the prostate.

I ask because I’m over 50 and I’m considering taking arginine and zinc, at the very least, and possibly pygeum.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Inseminator
I wouldn’t take Pygeum unless you’re over 50, in which case it’s very beneficial.

I’m skipping Pygeum for now. I will try to find something else.

Hey All, thanks for sharing all of your information and experiences so far!

I am starting my own stack today which is currently looking like:

2400mg Lecithin
45mg Zinc
~1000mg L-Arginine

Going to try this for a good month and see what happens. Any other recommendations for what I should take with this stack? I’m going to keep up my water intake but otherwise just going to see how it plays out I guess :D

Originally Posted by Seneca 32
I’m just wondering how it can be beneficial if you’re over 50 since it blocks the production of testosterone. It seems to me that blocking the production of testosterone wouldn’t be beneficial if you’re over fifty. Most folks over 50 already have decreasing testosterone levels so if pygeum inhibits testosterone production, why is it beneficial?

Unless it has other benefits, like perhaps to the prostate.

I ask because I’m over 50 and I’m considering taking arginine and zinc, at the very least, and possibly pygeum.

Thanks.

Pygeum does not *block* the production of testosterone.

What Pygeum does is it inhibits the conversion of testosterone into DHT, which is much more potent than testosterone.

DHT is bad for men over 50 because it contributes to an enlarged prostate. That’s why you see a lot of older guys take Saw Palmetto, because Saw Palmetto effectively does the same thing, inhibit DHT production.

So in other words, taking Pygeum will slow the process of enlarged prostate and lessen symptoms.

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