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Ginkgo VS. Ginseng - What's Better

Shit, and then there’s Horny Goat Weed which is supposed to be INSANELY popular in China.

Originally Posted by bobs3304
Wikipedia says Ginkgo and Ginseng basically have the same side-effects.

Restlessness, headaches, blood pressure, etc.

Not sure where you’re getting your information from Pole.

Ginkgo is a vassal dialator, for that reason alone it has a lowering effect on blood pressure. It also increases nitric oxide, for this reason it decreases blood pressure. It reduces cortisol so this to reduces blood pressure. It is an anti-platelet so this is another reason.
It lowers cholesterol and this is a reason.

Gensing stimulates cortisol, I’m not sure how or why it helps with erections but it does. It does help with adrenal depletion, and it is an adaptogen making it easier to deal with stressful situations. And like ginkgo it is good for the immune system. Perhaps the spike in blood pressure is a temporary initial reaction but because of it’s ability to give tyou energy and help with stress it may even bring down somewhat. So I would not necessarily count it out as a health aid. Wikipedia have been known to be wrong but I’m going to check it out what it says about ginkgo.


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Originally Posted by bobs3304
Shit, and then there’s Horny Goat Weed which is supposed to be INSANELY popular in China.

I’ve been taking 2 tablets twice a day now for almost 2 months. Each tablet contains:
- 500mg Horny Goat Weed (Epimedium grandiflorum, standardized to contain 10% Icarlin,
- 300mg MacaPure (Lepidium meyenil, standardized to contain 0.06% macamides & Macaenes).
So, I am taking 2,000 mg a day of Horny Goat Weed and 1200mg of Maca.

I’m sorry, but I see NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING HAPPENING! Nada, Zilch, Zero, Non, Nyet, Nao, Nein, Nothing!

I paid good money for it so I will take it until I use it all up. Then, that will be it with Horny Goat Weed!

It may help the Chinese, but it has done nothing for me!


Started 4/9/07: Bpel 4.438 Eg 3.750 - Fl 3.750 Fg 3.500

Now 07/08/09: Bpel 5.625 Eg 5.875 Fl 4.625 Fg 5.813....Goal: Bpel 7.500 Eg 6.500 - Fl 5.500 Fg 6.000

"PE inorder to give more Happiness & Joy to yourself AND others!" Panos *** "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosevelt.

Originally Posted by bobs3304
Btw, not that it matters but I’m researching Ginseng more closely, and there’s 2 types of Panax Ginseng - white and red.

Apparently they both have the same healing properties, but one gives you energy, the other calms down.

And I don’t even know which one I’m taking, it just says Korean.

So there’s that, plus I’m not sure which is better for me - Ginseng or Ginkgo.

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Gensings raise nitric oxide.
Ginkgo does the same, but makes you horny as well so it goes a little bit further than ginseng does with ginkgo you should see results with in 14 days,but improvements continue up to six months, I’m in the middle of my second. The ginkgo in energy drinks is not enough to affect anything but offers a placebo effect. I do believe even though ginkgo is more effective, gensing works faster. I would do both 2-1.
I think Korean is the best over all gensing, but it does raise cortisol. So you might want to supplement with decaffeinated green tea supplements to block the cortisol. But then ginkgo is also a cortisol blocker. Wikipedia does not give enough information and is vague at best.

Green tea and black tea both lower blood pressure. Green tea works better for this though, both are great for circulation and erections.


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Well right now I’m taking 1000mg (not 100), and it’s an extended release tablet so it it doesn’t hit you all at once.

They’re Nature’s Plus, Herbal Actives. (That’s the name).

What I’m probly gonna do is take them for a week or so, and see if I start feeling horny more often, or get spontaneous erections. Or if it even helps with stress.

If nothing, I’ll dump them, and pick up some good Gingko.

My Ginseng is 15% Ginsenosides. Is that high potency? What’s high potency for Ginkgo? Good brand?

Btw, I’d like to know if you have to cycle either Ginseng or Ginkgo?

Originally Posted by bobs3304
Btw, I’d like to know if you have to cycle either Ginseng or Ginkgo?

Ginkgo can be used for long term like 6 months. You need to cycle off Ginseng.

Originally Posted by bobs3304
My Ginseng is 15% Ginsenosides. Is that high potency? What’s high potency for Ginkgo? Good brand?

I think 15% is a good potency. 5-7% is more common.

For ginkgo, look for 24%.

I’m taking 24% ginkgo from Spring Vally.

It’s my second week on it. As far as I know it’s takes couple of weeks to notice any effects from ginkgo.

I could be wrong, but I feel sort of like on Ginseng I feel a tad bit more like anxious.

So I tossed the bottle.

I think I need something that’ll make me more mellow while givin me the PE benefits too.


PE should, in my opinion, be a health thing, like brushing our teeth and working out.

Obsessing about gains will only lead to disappointment for most people. - babbis

Originally Posted by Panos
I’ve been taking 2 tablets twice a day now for almost 2 months. Each tablet contains:
- 500mg Horny Goat Weed (Epimedium grandiflorum, standardized to contain 10% Icarlin,
- 300mg MacaPure (Lepidium meyenil, standardized to contain 0.06% macamides & Macaenes).
So, I am taking 2,000 mg a day of Horny Goat Weed and 1200mg of Maca.

I’m sorry, but I see NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING HAPPENING! Nada, Zilch, Zero, Non, Nyet, Nao, Nein, Nothing!

I paid good money for it so I will take it until I use it all up. Then, that will be it with Horny Goat Weed!

It may help the Chinese, but it has done nothing for me!

My results for horny goat weed are the same, Panos, and the only insane thing is the price tag. (Haven’t tried Maca.)

Originally Posted by Braingasm
My results for horny goat weed are the same, Panos, and the only insane thing is the price tag. (Haven’t tried Maca.)

Hi Braingasm:
My Horny Goad Weed states that also includes Maca. Anyway, I glad to know that I am not alone. And you are right about the price…insane!


Started 4/9/07: Bpel 4.438 Eg 3.750 - Fl 3.750 Fg 3.500

Now 07/08/09: Bpel 5.625 Eg 5.875 Fl 4.625 Fg 5.813....Goal: Bpel 7.500 Eg 6.500 - Fl 5.500 Fg 6.000

"PE inorder to give more Happiness & Joy to yourself AND others!" Panos *** "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosevelt.

And then their is “Golden Rod.” I heard it is good for erections and depression, that’s about all I know about it.


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Originally Posted by kingpole
And then their is “Golden Rod.” I heard it is good for erections and depression, that’s about all I know about it.

It makes me sneeze! :chuckle:


Started 4/9/07: Bpel 4.438 Eg 3.750 - Fl 3.750 Fg 3.500

Now 07/08/09: Bpel 5.625 Eg 5.875 Fl 4.625 Fg 5.813....Goal: Bpel 7.500 Eg 6.500 - Fl 5.500 Fg 6.000

"PE inorder to give more Happiness & Joy to yourself AND others!" Panos *** "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" Eleanor Roosevelt.

Hey guys,

Recently Ive heard of something called “Suppon”. (Su-pPon) Which is a Japanese word for “Turtle Blood”. I have heard that it is a delicacy in Japan that gives men a surge of testosterone or “bloodlust” if they drink the blood of this turtle. Since its blood, it has a high concentration of Iron in it, and supposedly, that is what creates this testosterone boost in men. I have also heard that Japanese pharmacies actually sell small 15ml viles of this stuff as well as a pill form of the supplement. Ive never tried it but its something new to put on the table ah?

Id like to add that this is not an actual turtle however, it is of the turtle family, but its body is actually softer than that of a real one. Its nose is also elongated and boxed, kind of like a bottle nosed doplhin I guess. Anyway, China is famous for producing these “Turtles” and shipping them to Japanese customers.

So, actually the origin of this supplement is once again from China..


Last edited by jackhumble : 11-10-2007 at .

Ok I just bought a new ginseng supplement at a health food store that is supposed to be great, my last one was from kroger and I believe supplements from anywhere but gnc and healthfood stores just aren’t as good. Anyways my new ginseng supplement doesn’t say standardized and it says the recommended dosage is 2 500mg tablets (they actually smell like grass or root unlike my last ginseng supplement) twice daily, therefore 2000mg of ginseng. My last one said 2 250mg tablets daily but it was also standardized… Is this to much of the unstandardized ginseng or is the manufacture’s recomended dosage sound right since it wouldn’t be the same as a standardized dosage?


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