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Originally Posted by Jones8315
Several people have reported to me that a topical testosterone cream can increase penis size. There have been about 5 people who have had sucess with this method. 4androstenediol only differs from test by two protons, and myself and someone else has used this and we both have seen growth. The person i know gained .5 inches in three weeks, and this is my 14th day on it, ive gained just a little over 1/4 of an inch in girth and length. I am testing other pro-hormones too.

RISKS: Similar to testosterone replacement. Will acceletate alopecia. Discontinue if you see some extra hair in your comb. If you expirience frequent urination, it may be a sign of BPH. Do not use if you have history of prostate cancer. Total dose is ~50 mg per day. Bodybuilders use up to 900 mg of this stuff, with little side effects. your risks should be minute. cycle: 4 weeks on/ 2 off.

METHODS: Cover penis with transderal 4AD, or androgel (need Rx). Keep away from balls. Two applications, one in morning, one in night. Measure every week, results should be noticible. Do not masturbate, drink 1-2 gallons H20, lift weights, use creatine and protein powder (these are just hunches, but i find they work).

You can make your own transdermal, (, or purchase one from, it should last a while. warning: using an isoproply alchol base will burn a little.

THEORY: 4AD is converted to TEST, which is converted to DHT and many other androgens. These androgens saturate the penile tissue, and raise basel levels to purbertal-thus inducing hyperplasia.

PLEASE: Repost this in popular PE forums. This could be the real deal.
Also, do not whine about the ‘risks’. Go somewhere else and bitch. There is a lot of science behind this. Post if your going to try this, then post your results. If you have questions, feel free to ask me.

The Science: Page through here to find lots of theory and research:…o=&fpart=2&vc=1

One final word. The risks are small. The potential for finding a real solution for PE is great.

I think that what you experienced is a better EQ. I have used pro-hormones (ie. androstenediol, androstenedione) and AAS and I can honestly and confidently say that the gains described above are from a better EQ.

Also, I read that 4ad was band. Is that true?

Does anyone know where I can get a good 4ad gel or spray, because I don’t know how to mix my own trans-dermal formula. If not, can anyone coach me step by step on how to mix my own, and where to get the products necessary?]

Find a website specifically for bodybuilding.

Are you saying the testosterone cream will make my dick bigger?? Is it permanent? Where can I buy this stuff??

I only thought that the cream will work during puberty??

Cheers in advance and.. WHAT A WEBSITE!

Originally Posted by kimish
I think that what you experienced is a better EQ. I have used pro-hormones (ie. androstenediol, androstenedione) and AAS and I can honestly and confidently say that the gains described above are from a better EQ.

Agree on that. I am sorry I will put few younger members down but those things DO NOT work. I have been taking DHT in cream…many steroids(including Testesterone and Masteron, which is a derivative of DHT) and it does not work at all! Sure - better EQ can be seen…but that is not permanent result.

Adults are not effected by hormones the same way as teenagers. Just like human growth hormone can’t cause adults to grow taller, testosterone and other androgens do not cause penis growth after puberty. If this were the case, bodybuilders would all have ginormous schlongs. Bodybuilders take extraordinary abouts of testosterone and experience no penis growth. Consider that during puberty, from 13-16 years old, when your genes are turned on, your penis only grows a couple inches. At the very most an inch a year, or 1/2 inch in 6 months.

This guy is now an Ex member.

It sounds like a load of bullshit.

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You should have a wheal’s dick to date it’s almost 7 years now.

OP is gone and from the first couple of pages, you can see that his hypothesis was being ripped apart. Testosterone is very powerful hormone. Applying it using creams and other substances results in it’s delivery into your blood stream and it can cause all kinds of problems like man tits, heart abnormality, hair loss and etc. You don’t just take roids but a mix of other drugs to prevent the unwanted side affects. I suggest that everyone stays away from this unless that have done the proper research and are taking the right combination, and concentration of chemicals.

I don't settle for meritocracy

Late to the thread, I don’t know how it’s evolved but my response;

Originally Posted by Jones8315
Did the study say what size the 17yr old started at and how long he was administered the stuff? Also, what age are you?

Response to mrbigstick:

Yes. 3 weeks on 10% T cream twice a day. He started at 6.5 by 4.5 and ended at 7.0 by 6.5. 27.2% percent growth is stated.

For some reason you were not receiving PM’s.

I am 21.

Also, I think this excerpt pours some cold water over the entire theory;

The surgical repair of hypospadias may be more difficult in boys with microphallus than in those with a penis of normal size. Temporary enlargement of the abnormally small penis can be achieved by local application or systemic administration of testosterone

The reason that pours water on the theory, adult body builders have been using systematically administered test for generations, it does not increase their penis size

So I conclude, as stated previously on this thread, an adult would see no gains

The 17 year old cited in the study is hardly post pubescent, I don’t even think a person in their mid 20’s is entirely post pubescent.

I would conclude if a person is below 30 they have a chance of slight gains with test therapy however it wouldn’t ‘t be exclusively though local application, injection would give gains as well, I would think internal application might be more effective but a study would have to be conducted to find out

Anyway, hope springs eternal and I would still like to know if test cypionate can be used topically without modification

Last edited by p6inch : 10-31-2010 at .

My above post went in without a modification I was planning, agreeing with the post above mine, hormone therapy needs to be physician monitored with blood levels taken regularly to adjust the protocol when side affects occur

And side affects will ALWAYS occur on hormone therapy and the liability has to be weighed against the gains you are only speculating since they are most likely going to fail to achieve any goal worth the risk

If you are on hormone therapy for health and your physician is monitoring your bloods, do let us know if you see any kind of penile gain other then libido or eq

Is there anymore proof of this?

Where can you get this stuff legally?

I am not finding the products when I hit the links can someone help me out finding the transdermal cream

I don’t see where on anabolic minds you can Create one and it don’t see it on fast400

Dude this is a very old thread which means that there is a good chance any and all links slash references are no longer valid.

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Deranged Hormone Biofeedback

Like Jones will find out, any who follows his example will not be better off for their efforts. Our bodies produce hormones in very specific amounts in direct response to our needs and actions. When hormones are taken from without the body, especially those such as DHEA, estrogen, progesterone, androgesterone and testosterone, the delicate biofeedback of the body becomes deranged. With the exception of hormone replacement such as when the thyroid is removed, or insulin for severe diabetes, one would do well avoiding hormone supplementation.


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