I’m sure pe could be done along side this. However many of us are doubtful. It could be a waste of time and money. So I have made the call for all who have made significant gains on the magic grease alone (no PE) to speak up. You are free of course to do what you wish, however doing both and getting gains proves nothing about the magic grease. We already know that exercise works.
Check it out guys, no need to have a big dick if you ain't gonna use it!!
In the forum that Jones posted has quite a few people claiming that they made gains, especially with girth..
Anyone else want to report in?
In day 2 of the experiment, it’s way too early for me to have anything to report other than a general improvement in erection quality. This probably has more to do with not having wanked for the last 2 days, as per Jones’ directions.
This is about 4ad and its conversion rate. Also shows that it will not convert directly to DHT or Estrogen. I am interested in this possibility but NOTHING I read leads me to believe it could possibly work and I do believe in the over all theory that penis growth can happen after puberty.
What am I supposed to find? To grow your penis, you need an androgenic PH not an anobolic PH. I frequent anabolicminds.com and Avants forum. I know about prohormones.
Cya at 8
All I am going to say is good luck! I don’t want to get involved here anymore. I said my opinion and now lets look at the results. I dont have any answers either except do manual PE. Get a Bib hanger or a pump and stop waisting time.
8 isnt enough
I dont think anyone wasted their time. Everyone claimed some sort of gains.
I used 4aderm for three weeks. I got zero growth. My skin seemed to plump up a little bit (could be from the carriers). Absolutely zero growth. Before starting 4aderm I had measured my maximum super-max erection. After the cycle I measured the same super-max erection. Exact same length and girth. My theory is that the 4aderm along with less frequent masterbation helps erection strength similar to penis pills, so many guys see what they believe to be growth, but it is really just a better performing penis.
Oh yeah…I did ejaculate several times per week. Why ever that would matter I have no idea. After all, Jones himself did not give any good reason why ejaculation would hamper results. He said it was just a hunch he had.
I guess Jones really lost intrest in this topic. He’s been absent from the pheromone board ever since getting booted from Thunder’s. That’s a little fishy.
after 11 pages i went str8 to 50 this thread sucks aevery 1 should had posted there gains that were gonna buy after page 5 because after that it was just an arguement on whos smarter
proof is in the puddin stop talkin and show the proof if dont work well see if it does we will know
New2This, please help us out and read the posting rules.
“after 11 pages i went str8 to 50 this thread sucks aevery 1 should had posted there gains that were gonna buy after page 5 because after that it was just an arguement on whos smarter proof is in the puddin stop talkin and show the proof if dont work well see if it does we will know”
I know that str8 means straight as in directly, but what is aevery 1? Also try a PERIOD from time to time. Can you explain the phrase “should HAD posted THERE gains”?
I speak English fairly well, but others here don’t. Please make it easy for them.
well aevery 1 is a type o
not hard to understand many people make typos
every 1 , str8 is jus short hand writing on the computer sort of what my colledge teacher does when she dosent have enough room on the board. If you cant understand this then maybe you are outdated or damn near obsolete in mind compacity
should had posted there gains is self explanitory!
It means just that, Fighting over who knows how much of what dont matter. It is about weather or not the cream works.
come on cano, I read Letters from Europeans all the time. There much worse. When You read them out loud you actually adopt there accent, Beacuse They type how they speak.
Not good enuff for ya? You know were u can go
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