Gain .5 inch/month with no excersizes

The point being that if we use our combined knowledge, this can happen. If everyone has their own agenda. Its dead in the water.

The problem being someones want for this to be public knowledge. I am sorry to say that this is an impossibility. Do you know think someone hasnt already tried to grow the penis after puberty? But where is the study?

I personally have never even seen this attempt. Just Dr’s saying it wouldnt work because of down regulation of the receptors. This is proven incorrect by that study with the rats. As well as many others that I personally have ran across in my time searching. So where is the study?

There is no money in this sorry to say. As soon as the FDA catches on, you will be shut down. How do you think that you can get around them? They will bind you up for a decade or until everyone forgets.

This is a fact of life. I personally would have ordered a test on post pubertal men after the test with the microphallus succeeded. Wouldnt you have as well??????

They have done the same thing with this exercise. Everywhere you turn, you hear it wont work, its dangerous, there is no proof. I think most of us could attest to this being wrong as well. Why did they do that? Why dont they have any want to even test PE? Its like a hush hush thing going on here. I had a hell of a time even getting a Dr. to admit it worked at all.

I did actually get one of them to say it worked though. Here it is:

I needed to know your professional opinion about such “exercises”. I have read on your site and many others about weights alone can lengthen the penis. The ligaments can only be so long and gains of more than an inch must be considered an increase of the tunica? I would like an explanation of why some patients have gained more than an inch from wearing weights more compulsively adds to the surgery. This isn’t being explained to my satisfaction.

His reply:
The surgery frees slightly more of your penis to be stretched, thus
improving the results of weights.

Sincerely,

Dr. Alter

Nearlythere, you might be wrong concerning test shutdown and health risks from 4-AD:

It will be strongly demonstrated that the dangers of testosterone precursors are greatly exaggerated, and that these supplements in fact have a fairly solid safety record…

The first of these studies (Ziegenfuss and Kerrigan, 1999), gave 14 young men daily doses for four weeks of either a mixture of 375 milligrams of 4AD with 75 milligrams of other androgen precursors, or a placebo…

No changes in prostate specific antigen were observed in this study, suggesting a lack of increased risk of prostate cancer from this product. Also, total testosterone levels did not change after four weeks of supplementation, which like the Ziegenfuss study also suggests that testosterone production in the testes is not harmed by 4AD supplementation.

Not the final word on the subject, but worth note.

(The only bit I’d be wary of, is that that 4-ad was taken orally in the study, not topically.)

Later,
N.

“ANY ANDROGEN INTRODUCED INTO THE BODY WILL SHUT DOWN ALL NATURAL TESTOSTERONE PRODUCTION!”

Good post. To say that any amount of 4AD completely shuts down testosterone is absurd. That means one molecule of 4AD can shut down your entire T production. I don’t think any intelligent person would ever believe that.

There is no way to curb potential risks to the prostate. It is such close proximity to the where you are putting this gel that even if it was 90% local, there still would be effects shown by the prostate.

There are no 90 /100% local delivery methods. If you make this more local then you increase the dangers by making it able to be local anywhere you put it. An accidental spill on the testis would be a very bad thing instead of a minor irritation. I would need to find the effects of direct contact to the testicals.

It will always have inherent risks similar to T gel. Therefore it isnt suited for everyone.

I would like to hear about druids progress here. Granted that he may have better erections from supplementing his T level. But it would be interesting if he is seeing any gains as well.

northstar

Are you trying it yet? I don’t know this guy Druid and I know he’s jones friend. So I’m kind of curious to hear about your results since your a long time member of Thunders and someone I know will be honest about the results, nothing against Druid I just don’t know him.

Dino

This could help. They dont get into what carrier they use. The whole ideal is that, when you are erect, the blood is trapped in the the CC and CS and therefore you can get an local effect from that alone regardless of the carrier you use. This is why nightly erections are so important.

This product could help with PE in general.

Cya at 8

Your not saying you could gain size though, you just mean a healthy penis right

Yes, also pointing out that those on AS would also get some local effect. I do not know of any AS users reporting gains. If this were to work then the carrier would be of great importance. you would need a great deal of local effect.

Sorry for not clarifying myself better.

Hi Dino,

I have not tried it yet. The black and white bottle from Avant Labs is currently sitting by my computer, pointing it’s evil little snout at me.

Watching…

Waiting…

Sneering.

I think it has developed a mild form of contempt for me over the last 24 hours, and I can’t say I blame it. If I were a banned 21st Century prohormone ready to hulkify a puny human, I’m not sure how excited I’d be about being smeared on tree-hugging-granola-boy’s penis.

It’s evil, that I’m certain of.

But maybe we’re being too harsh on each other, we’re both quite unique in our own way. I’m a vanishing breed, it’s the last of it’s kind. Two entirely different philosophies thrust together in the most unlikely of eras. Perhaps, we can each help define the other.

Y’know, like Matrix: Reloaded

Hmm…

It’s still watching me.

N.

I will mention, however, that it might be cool to be the first “Andro-pumper” on this forum.

If we’re talking a localized effect here, would it be better to put it on before the pumping session?

Geez…having your body fluids sucked into an area you’ve doused with a prohormone…

I don’t think I’ve entertained anything quite so absurd in sometime.

Thanks Thunder, this is all your fault.

N.

Dino,

I got a bottle of the “dangerous stuff” and have used it two days. I will let you guys know if my rod starts growing like a weed or if my balls turn into marbles. I already have pics on file here with my ruler. Later,

Big

That’s the spirit!

Cry Havoc! And let loose the dogs of war!

(you first)

N.

“If we’re talking a localized effect here, would it be better to put it on before the pumping session?”

If it involves contact and abrasion with penile skin, you dont want to do it right after application. You may rub off the prohormone. Stick w/ post excersize application.

Bigone, northstar

Just be careful guys, north you know the evil bottle is going to win so when it does just watch your self very carefully, it already won when you ordered it.

Bigone

Give us the play by play on what your feel and if you notice anything different in your penis or anything else. Keep us posted bro.

Dino