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I hoped someone with knowledge would chime in & tell me which Beyond a Century product would be the equivalent to the twin labs 500 milligrams of polyphenols or bioflavonoids. Since not.. I prolly have to make two orders. I will take one last stab & send Tyler Parr a email & ask. More time…

mgus: Thanks for asking. But things are about the same since my intake has not changed much. Some good days.. Some bad. I have a appointment to get my hormonal panel evaluated in a little over a week. I will know more then. But until then ,its hard not to “try” one thing or another. At the moment I’m taking 20 drops of Avena Sativa extract and 1200 mg of Saw Palmetto every morning on top of the garden of life living multi & Nordic naturals cod liver oil I have been taking for a little over a year. I feel a tingle in my nuts every day after starting that. But my libido & erections show no sign.

You see.. I’m not as educated as some of you guys ,and always I wish there was a cure-all for my condition. But what really gets me is that Iv done this to myself with years of smoking, drinking, and just general disregard for my health ,& now its caught up. The only positive side to this is at least my kids wont have the financial burden of taking care of me after I retire.

My advice.. If you don’t start. You will never have to quit.
I may not have the strength to quit my evil ways. But will counter act.

OK.. Now if you’ll excuse me I need to make a appointment with my shrink. lol What was this thread about again?

That’s the one I use. It’s very handy. BAC has awesome deals!

When I read of success others have with supplements, I usually just find out the ingredients then see
what BAC has in bulk and make it myself. Save lot’s of money that way.


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This was a pm to me, that I thought would be interesting to answer on this thread.

“I’ve been reading through the thread on the ALCAR and L-Ornithine GH formula and through the additional links posted. I think it’s getting close to one year since you began using the formula. Are you still taking it? If so, do you still recommend it?”

Has it been a year? Damn time flies when you are a mad scientist in the throes of experimentation! Actually, its been pretty interesting for me. I started with the ALCAR formula, while taking NOX2. I added a three hour fast before bed as per the ALCAR protocol.

What I noticed most ( I’m now 47) is a nice steady abdominal fat lose without having to drastically be strict with my diet. Usually, at this age, I have to be super strict to lose that belly fat. So I started to lose nice and steady. Then I ran out of the ALCAR, but found that I was losing the fat at the same rate.

I assumed that it was the 3 hour fast, and recommended it to EVERYONE! Then I ran out of NOX2, and THE FAT LOSE STOPPED! Hooda thunk it! (For our overseas friends, “who would have thought that was the case?”)

So with a little research, it turns out that Arginine can be an excellent GH releaser.

So, now I decided to experiment with L-glutamine and GABA. Well, for me, I really didn’t see that much of a result, and I was taking the minimum dose of GABA which is 2 teaspoons ( 4 grams) and added a teaspoon of L - glutamine to that. Thats a ton of amino acids!

So, after finding the Beyond a Century, I decided to go back to the original ALCAR formula. It is real cheap from BAC and you only are taking 525 mg a day!

One of the mistakes I think I was making with the ALCAR formula, was I was mixing it in water hot enough to dissolve it (usually it doesn’t dissolve, almost waxy). I think I may have been damaging it with the hot water. I ordered it last week I should get it soon.

“You seem to suggest in one of your posts that you are taking NOX2 along with the formula. Is this correct? What do you think of taking other supplements in addition to this formula, for example L-Arginine, DHEA, 5-HTP, etc.? Or would that be overkill?”

The problem is that when you are taking all this stuff at the same time, you really don’t know what is doing what at first. Thats why its best to add one new thing at a time, and stay with it long enough to see what it does before you add something else. You may be taking 5 things and it maybe only one is actually providing any benefit.

“Perhaps you could recap for me what the results thus far have been for you. You mention better sleep, increased strength, muscle growth, greater ability to lose fat, better skin, more night wood, and increased libido. Are you still experiencing these effects? Have there been any unwanted effects? For example, has it thinned your hair like it did for Dino? Dr. Parr mentions in the report that, in time, it could restore grey hair to its natural color. Have you had any experience of this? Or are you lucky enough not to have any grey hair yet?”

Once again the problem is I have too many variables going on here. I constantly modify my PE and wt training, which can have a dramatic effect on my night wood and strength etc.

What I can say I noticed when taking the ALCAR was increased libido, and tighter skin. Nothing has seemed to help the hair going progressively grey. I have no hair loss, and that hasn’t changed with the GH releasers. I think I can also say that it has improved my sleep patterns.

“What I’m looking for is something that will increase my energy, in particular my sexual energy, and assist me in losing fat. I’m 44. I eat well and exercise. I’m in very good shape. Still, I’m beginning to feel my age a bit, and I just can’t seem to lose that last bit of flab around my abs.”

I think that this is an excellent place to start for what you are looking for. For the money and time, I feel you have very little to lose, and potentially quite a bit to gain. Thats why I have dropped the others and have returned to this formula. It has the best research and the lowest dose of all the ones I have looked into. I used to think amino acid Gh releasers were BS, but I found out it can be the real thing. I continue to take the NOX2 because it has proven to me to be beneficial in several ways. I only take 2 tablets a day.

“I would also like to take something that will give me stronger erections, not merely more frequent erections. Has the formula done anything like this for you? As an added bonus, it would be great to find something less potent than Viagra that would increase my sexual stamina beyond the more typical 5 or 10 or 15 minutes. I suppose it’s too much to expect that the GH formula might help in this department as well.”

The GH formula SHOULD help here too.
I think if you are eating and exercising right, few things will give you stronger erections than kagels. The most effective way to kagel (for me) is to squeeze your penis when at least partially erect and hold it. Then do a kagel against that pressure. Kagel and hold for a count of 4-10 seconds. Do it until you find the BC muscle gets tired and you can’t hold your kagel for the time count. At that point stop…you are done for the day. Do that every 2-3 days. You will find you will develop exceptionally hard erections.

You should be able to do either more sets, or more time or against a stronger squeeze as you go on. This indicates the BC is getting stronger. If you find the opposite, you are doing it too frequently and you are not recovering. Take longer between exercise days. So if you are doing it every other day, go to every third day and see if that rectifies the situation.

Its’ very much like wt training for your penis. If I work each body part to failure at 5-6 reps one time per week, I get stronger. If I do that same workout 2X each week…I get weaker. Not enough recovery time will not allow you to increase in strength…same with the BC muscle!

Many guys report increased erectile strength with pumping or jelquing or clamping. But what I can GUARANTEE you is if you overdo any of these, the first thing you will notice is decreased hardness. It is one of the first signs of over doing it.

One more thing, is I think getting full spectrum minerals is CRITICAL for health. I found years ago, that if I came more than a few times a week, I would really feel run down, and had really decreased sex drive.

Well, it turns out I was magnesium deficient, which once corrected with about 500-700 mg of a good amino acid chelate magnesium…it totally corrected that and my sex drive is great.

Thats just magnesium… many of us have multiple mineral defieciencies (see soil depletion). So my current recommendation for EVERYONE is a good multi mineral (100% amino acid chelated) and coral calcium. I already posted an awsome site for it on this thread.

If you try the ALCAR and add the minerals, I can almost guarantee an improvement. You really have nothing to lose but a few bucks.

I hope this is of some benefit to you.



Thanks for the sage advice. Keep us posted on how it goes with this second round with the ALCAR and L-Ornithine mix.

I like the idea of the nice steady fat loss without having to be too strict with the diet. Maybe I’ll get to eat pizza more than once a year!

Do you think the GH mix was contributing to this weight loss, or do you think this was mostly the result of the NOX2? It’s not very clear in your post.

I’m in the process of getting a milligram scale and the amino acids. I’m looking forward to giving this stuff a try. I’ll give it some time, then I’ll see about adding NOX2 or something else. But I will take your advice on the multi minerals.

By the way, do you really find working each muscle group to fatigue once a week better than twice a week? I’m still on a twice a week schedule. What’s your routine?

Actually, it isn’t even that simple.

My legs respond best to 1 time every 10 days!

Pulling muscles ( curls, rows, pullups) seem to do best at about 1 time every 6-7 days.

Pushing muscles (presses, triceps exercises) I’m still seeing what works best. It may be that it needs one major day /week, with a moderate to light day 3-4 days after the heavy.

Be lets not hijack this thread.

Its hard to separate which did what. GH release is GH release, what ever does it. I know many swear by GABA , for me it didn’t do much. I think different folks may respond better to certain aminos. I think overall the ALCAR formula may be best…I’ll let you know!

For me, the NOX2 leads to nice steady fat lose if I am even moderately strict with my diet. Without it I have to be superstrict. The only problem is, when I take the NOX2 I end up eating more junk…because I CAN! LOL!

Give the ALCAR formula several months, although I think you will see some changes rather quickly.

With the minerals, I really believe you need the multi min for the major minerals in the proper amounts, and the coral calcium for the trace minerals.

Good luck!

I have been back on the formula for about three weeks and all is good better sleep and when I can get to the gym excellent workouts and extreme night wood. I have been using rogaine along with Propecia to keep the hair from being effected thia time and so far so good.

I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)


Are you taking anything else with this formula, other than the hair products? How has the formula affected your ability to lose body fat? Are the erections stronger at other times than night wood?


I just take vitamins and as far as erections go I can’t say they are harder because they have been very hard to begin with. One thing I do feel and I have to watch out is I have been more aggressive I mean I’m not starting fights but I seem to get my fur up a lot faster than normal. I just got back from the gym and had another great workout and oh dam the little honeys working out had my blood boiling.

I was thinking of trying that NOX2 stuff because I have some winter fat to shed for sure but I need more than anything to get regular at the gym again.

I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
I just got back from the gym and had another great workout and oh dam the little honeys working out had my blood boiling.

I know the feeling. It’s the best and most enjoyable GH amplifier!

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
One thing I do feel and I have to watch out is I have been more aggressive I mean I’m not starting fights but I seem to get my fur up a lot faster than normal.

I’ve noticed that the same thing happens if I have sex (or masturbate) without ejaculating for several times (days) in a row. An old Taoist secret for maintaining energy. But it can become too much. I think this may boost testosterone.

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
I was thinking of trying that NOX2 stuff because I have some winter fat to shed for sure but I need more than anything to get regular at the gym again.

I just got some NOX2 today. Curious to see how it goes. I’ll do this for a week or two. Then when my milligram scale and supplements arrive, I stop the NOX2 (for a while) and start the ALCAR formula.

Just one little caveat here;

When I first made up this formula, I was using capsules. When I got my scales it turned out that the “500mg” of ALCAR and Ornithine were more than that (after opening and poring out the powder).

It turns out that they had fillers and antibinding agents in with it. When I got done calculating it… I ending up having to take about 690 mg of the mixture to get the right amount of the stuff!

For those of you not getting results, you might want to weigh out each capsule to see how many total miligrams it is and recalculate it.

I just recieved my order from BAC and it is pure AAs with no fillers! This should be easy.

I am going to my friend’s office to make sure the bottle of 100 grams IS 100 grams! I will then add 6 grams of Ornithine and shake it until well blended.

I will then measure out 530 mg each nite before bed…I’ll let you know how it goes. I think it will be a good idea to really shake it each day before scooping out the stuff.


I ordered my ALCAR and Ornithine from BAC as well. Yes, their prices are great!

I also got a small milligram scale designed for precious stones from Ebay:…QfkrZ1QQfromZR8

It’s already arrived. Though the weighing platform is small, it should be more than sufficient for weighing the small amount of Ornithine. The guy on Ebay has plenty of these things, so you can get it for $77 or $79 max. They cost anywhere from $90 to $100 and up if you buy them elsewhere.

I’ve been taking the NOX2 for the past several days. I can’t say that I notice much from it. Perhaps a bit more morning wood, but that’s all. I’m going to finish this bottle, then take just the ALCAR and Ornithine for a while. Then if I want to add other supplements, I’ll experiment.

I’ll keep you posted.

sparkyx: when you use the single amino power from BAC, are you going to use 500mg of that power
ALCAR and 25mg of the powered Ornithine HCL per dose? Or are you saying that you have to actually
use a different ratio?

100g:6g is not the same as 500mg:25mg (units cancel, that’s 16 2/3 versus 20)


(12/5/2008) BPEL: 7.75" EG: 5.75" BSFL: 8.1" FL: 5" FG 4.25"||New Goal: NBPEL: 8" EG: 6"

Technique: 95% Wet Jelqing, 5% Low Vacuum Pumping

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