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I have been doing it for a month and I’m very happy about it. I have been sleeping great and my work outs have been awesome. I have increased in strength and seem to gaining muscle size pretty fast and considering my workouts have been far from regular. I went through a 3 week period where I had trouble even waking up in the morning but that seems to be passing. My sex drive seems to have went up a notch and night time wood is off the hardest scale. So far this seems to a very good supplement for me.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

As soon as that financial aid comes through I’m buying my Acetyl

I ordered my L-Ornithine yesterday from BAC, so it’ll hopefully arrive next monday. Already have the ALCAR and capsules.

Two nights of Alcar/L-ornitine and sleep has been much better. I’ve slept nearly 12 hours last night whereas my usual is around 7. I think I’m going to like this even if it does nothing except promote good sleep, which can’t be a bad thing.

When I’ve been studying on my comuter into the early hours and finally drag myself away, I usually find it very difficult to sleep, and often don’t really sleep at all since my brain is running at 100mph about ideas. Not so last night - it was about 20 mins before I couldn’t hold my eyelids open any more.

Shiver

Same here bro, sleep has been much better and so have the work outs.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Shiver
Beyond-a-century do 100g ALCar for $12.50
1Fast400 do 500g for $31.99

Much better to buy a cap-m-quik machine and do it yourself.

Regards

Shiver

Shiver,

I guess I’ll have to try this. And beyond a century seems the best. Also I would get a cap machine.

Do you know any suppliers of caps? The usual has happened of course,

I threw out some caps I had kept in a cupboard for years only a couple of months ago, on the point I had not used them for so long I would never use them.

I’ll be grateful for any information - Thanks.

Petit

Originally Posted by nevadathomas
Has anyone ever tried the formula at this website?

It suggests taking these intakes before you sleep to reduce the gradual decline in the aging process.
500 mg Acetyl-L-cartinine
25 mg L-orthinine

http://longerhealthylife.com/

Are you sure the L-Ornithine dose is only 25mg? I can’t find it
for less than 250mg.

BFLR

Petitfaun,
1fast400 sell the caps as well as lots of other places. The only place I’ve found in the UK though is Herbs, Essential Oils & Natural Remedies | G Baldwin & Co

Big,
Yes, it is 25mg. Although that sounds like a small amount (small enough to make it difficult to measure at any rate), it’s the synergistic retationship between the two that’s claimed to make it effective. I’ve taken both individually over the years and never noticed anything.

Originally Posted by Shiver
Big,
Yes, it is 25mg. Although that sounds like a small amount (small enough to make it difficult to measure at any rate), it’s the synergistic retationship between the two that’s claimed to make it effective. I’ve taken both individually over the years and never noticed anything.

So you’re saying you took them separately and notice nothing, but
when you take 500mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine + 25mg L-Ornithine at bedtime,
you do notice something, right? Just want to be sure before I try
this.

Thanks,
BFLR

Yes, that’s it exactly. The sleep effect is supposed to be temporary, but for Dino it still seems to be there which I take as a good thing (kids sleep a lot when they’re growing, and OAP’s tend not to sleep a lot)

Shiver,

Thanks for info. We’ll see how it works for an oldie like me.

Petit

For about a month I was having trouble getting up in the morning and now that seems to be passing but I’m still getting a good nights sleep.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
For about a month I was having trouble getting up in the morning and now that seems to be passing but I’m still getting a good nights sleep.

That sounds even better than I was hoping for! (that the sleep effect is still good I mean).

Originally Posted by Shiver
That depends on the powder you’re using. For example, I use ‘The Capsule Machine’ (like this one: ), and can get 560mg of Green Tea powder in a 00 capsule. However, I can only get around 400mg of Tongkat in the same size capsule as it is much more granular.

The ALCar I have is quite gritty, and if yours is too, you may find that the L-Ornithine will fit in the same volume of space with the AlCar. Also, using a capping machine you have a tamper to pack it all in. If you’re not using a machine then you might find that you can’t even get the original contents back in unless you devise a way to tamp it down.

If you decide get serious about it, then I’d highly recommend getting a very sensitive small scale to measure out the contents which will take out most the guesswork. Ebay is a good source for these. The hardest thing though is ensuring you have a good mix when you have dissimilar ingredients.

Shiver,

Thanks for all the info. I’m waiting for ingredients and a capping machine and rarin’ to go.

You mention the graininess and the difficulty in mixing.

I wonder if this can be achieved by using the sort of mill found on food processors. The one I have has a small grinder which can reduce granulated sugar to very fine icing sugar in seconds. Putting both ingredients in together should also ensure a good mix.

I’ll try it out when all the goodies arrive.

Thankfully I have a chemist’s balance which up to now has been a display item as it resides in a glass case. That’s about to change!

If I can achieve the results reported so far I shall be very pleased.

Petit

Originally Posted by petitfaun
I wonder if this can be achieved by using the sort of mill found on food processors. The one I have has a small grinder which can reduce granulated sugar to very fine icing sugar in seconds. Putting both ingredients in together should also ensure a good mix.

I’ve never seen one of those, but it sounds like it would do the trick. The only issue I’ve found with Alcar was that the one time I tried making a lot of capsules they all dissolved in the bottle. I’m not sure if that’s because of the instability of Alcar, or the climate I was in (snowboarding and using ‘Animals stack’ recipe). Definately worth a go though.

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