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Oh, I’m going to up my Ornithine to 30.

When I originally did this with precapsulized ingredients, I got the expected head-tension,
vivid dreams and wood, but when I started doing this from powders from BAC, none of the
above occured.

BFLR


(12/5/2008) BPEL: 7.75" EG: 5.75" BSFL: 8.1" FL: 5" FG 4.25"||New Goal: NBPEL: 8" EG: 6"

Technique: 95% Wet Jelqing, 5% Low Vacuum Pumping

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Originally Posted by BigFatLuvRocket
Oh, I’m going to up my Ornithine to 30.

When I originally did this with precapsulized ingredients, I got the expected head-tension,
vivid dreams and wood, but when I started doing this from powders from BAC, none of the
above occured.

BFLR

Were you using a different dose of the Ornithine when you were using the BAC powers? Or are you suggesting that the BAC AAs are junk? I hope not the latter, since I’ve already placed my order with them.

Sparkyx and BFLR,

Given your experience, do you recommend that I begin with 30mg of Ornithine?

I am not saying the BAC is junk, but it’s possible that I have not been mixing the right way, or that I’m
not fasting enough before taking the mix.

All our bodies are different, so what works for me regarding Ornithine level may not be right for you, you
will just have to experiment.

BFLR


(12/5/2008) BPEL: 7.75" EG: 5.75" BSFL: 8.1" FL: 5" FG 4.25"||New Goal: NBPEL: 8" EG: 6"

Technique: 95% Wet Jelqing, 5% Low Vacuum Pumping

Photos Journal

The developers recommend the 20 milligram dose and move up if needed. I started at 25 and went to 30.

Just took my first dose about 3 minutes ago of the BAC, I made the big mistake of putting the powder on my tongue…yucckkkk!

It had that same sour taste of the locally bought stuff.

We’ll see, I should have a pretty good idea in about a week.

I took my stuff to a friends lab where he has electronic scales, and the 100 gram bottle of ALCAR weighed in at 99.23 grams…pretty good!

I just measured out the 6 grams, added them together in a larger container I had MSM in (500grams) and shook it for a couple minutes. I plan on shaking it every time.

I weighed out 530 mg and took it dry, next time I’ll mix it with water…maybe.

It really doesn’t mix well with water at all! Thats why I started using hot water before, then it dissolves. The only concern is it may damage the AAs…so I won’t do that again.

Anyway, going to bed now…I’ll keep you posted.

Sparkyx

Ok, its now the next morning…I woke up in the middle of the night soaked in sweat.

I was dreaming my house was surrounded by aliens (from space, not Mexico) using mind control to paralyse everyone in the house before they came in to get me.

I was in the process of trying to use a baseball bat on the one that came through the window and was climbing across the ceiling when I woke myself up with the effort to move against the paralysis.

So vivid dreams….naahhhh!

How much of this stuff do I have to take to get the Pam Anderson dreams?

Sparkyx

Originally Posted by sparkyx
I was dreaming my house was surrounded by aliens (from space, not Mexico) using mind control to paralyse everyone in the house before they came in to get me.

Sounds like some pretty good shit!

Originally Posted by sparkyx
How much of this stuff do I have to take to get the Pam Anderson dreams?

I think Pam Anderson’s new TV show begins tonight. So perhaps if you watch that before going to bed …

Originally Posted by sparkyx
My contribution is to recommended starting at 25 mg until you see little green men, then add 5 mg per hour until you see Pam Anderson….thank you very much.

Thanks for the recommendation. My AAs just arrived today, just in time for Pam Anderson on TV tonight (I think)!

However, I’ve got a big exam coming up in a couple of weeks. So I may wait till that’s over before I begin this GH adventure. The aliens might come and get me too. Then I’d miss my exam!

Originally Posted by sparkyx
If they actually take you away…your worries are over!

As long as they don’t bring me back. If they bring me back, then I’m in trouble!

Okay, no more Mars Attacks posts.

I’m not getting the great sleep I was from this when I have the time I have been getting great workouts though. The problem being time for the great workout! I will stay on it at least another month. I may add something else to the mix something to burn some fat.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
The problem being time for the great workout!

I hear that!

What dose of Ornithine are you currently taking? Still 25 mg? Have you though of upping it to 30 mg?

What else are you thinking of taking to help with the fat burning?

Originally Posted by motivated
I hear that!

What dose of Ornithine are you currently taking? Still 25 mg? Have you though of upping it to 30 mg?

What else are you thinking of taking to help with the fat burning?

I’m already at the 30 or close to it also I wonder what the self life of Ornithine is? I’m not sure on the fat burner I’m open for suggestions.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
I’m already at the 30 or close to it also I wonder what the self life of Ornithine is? I’m not sure on the fat burner I’m open for suggestions.

I have no idea what the shelf life of Ornithine is, but I bet an email or call to Beyond A Century would answer that for you.

I’d have to read Dr. Parr’s information on his web page again to confirm this, but did he say anything about the effects on sleeping wearing off after a while? I vaguely remember something like this. Or it could just be that this is what is happening in your case anyway. I think it’s great that the effects at the gym are still there.

How long have you taken the formula in total? And how long have you been on it this time? I’ve been in contact with Dr. Parr and I shall be contacting him again. I could ask him what he thinks about the sleep thing.

Unfortunately, I have no suggestions on fat burning supplements. I’m very sensitive to caffeine and stimulants generally, so all those products that have some kind of stimulant in them are out for me. I’ve been taking the NOX2 for a little over a week now. But it doesn’t seem to be doing anything for me. I know that one of the possible results of readjusting the GH levels with the ALCAR-Ornithine mix is loss of body fat and increase of lean muscle tissue. I’m hoping that happens to me. It’s just that last ten or fifteen pounds!

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