Fenugreek

I just got a supply of “Diabetic Nutrition Plan, one of the ingredients is fenugreek. I suppose it helps lower blood sugar. I need to know more about it.

Does anyone on Thundersplace take it, and could you fill me in on other things it does. The information on the web is vague.

Fenugreek can increase testosterone level, too, right?

Oh thats good which will help me lay down calcium as bone, instead of having excess float around in my blood.

Has anybody got some first-person experience with fenugreek?

I second that, this could be another fighting tool against diabetes.

Natural enemies of Diabetes are as follows:

Cinnamon,all ginseng’s especially Korean, fenegreek,chromium picolinate, vanadium sulfate.Bitter melon,alpha lipoic acid, gymmena sylvestre,Vit B6,B12,golden seal. Can anyone think of any others.
There are approximately 60 million diabetics in the U.S.A. There are just as many people who have it and don’t know it.

Fenugreek may also boost Testosterone levels. Adequate testosterone levels keeps insulin levels down.

That sounds interesting. So it seems that it is the testosterone increasing property that affects the insulin level?

Any source explaining Fenugreek boots T?

Not that I know of, most of the info I found concerns lowereing blood sugar.
I’m still looking into it.

I tried fenugreek for a week and it didn’t do much for me.

I don’t know much about fenugreek use for men, but it is a commen herb for women. It is one of the main herbs used to increase milk supply in lactating women, and also one of the main herbs used for breast tissue growth.

For older women it is also used to help balance the horomones.

The addition of fenugreek extract (Trigonella foenum-graecum) to glucose feeding increases muscle glycogen resynthesis after exercise.

Ruby BC, Gaskill SE, Slivka D, Harger SG.

Department of Health and Human Performance, The University of Montana, Missoula, Montana 59812-1825, USA. brent.ruby@mso.umt.edu

The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of ingesting an oral supplement containing 4-Hydroxyisoleucine (4-OH-Ile, isolated from fenugreek seeds [Trigonella foenum-graecum]) with a glucose beverage on rates of post-exercise muscle glycogen resynthesis in trained male cyclists. Following an overnight fast (12 hr), subjects completed a 90-minute glycogen depletion ride after which a muscle biopsy was obtained from the vastus lateralis. Immediately and 2 hours after the muscle biopsy, subjects ingested either an oral dose of dextrose (Glu) (1.8 g.kg BW(-1)) or 4-OH-Ile supplement (Glu+4-OH-Ile, including 2.0 mg.kg(-1) 4-OH-Ile with the same oral dose of dextrose) with a second muscle biopsy 4 hours after exercise. Post exercise muscle glycogen concentration was similar for both trials. Overall, there was a significant increase in glucose and insulin concentrations from time 0 throughout the majority of the 4-hour recovery period, with no significant differences between the two trials at any time point. Although muscle glycogen concentration significantly increased from immediately post exercise to 4 hr of recovery for both trials, the net rate of muscle glycogen resynthesis was 63% greater during Glu+4-OH-Ile (10.6+/-3.3 vs. 6.5+/-2.6 g.kg wet wt.(-1).hr.(-1) for the Glu+4-OH-Ile and Glu trials, respectively). These data demonstrate that when the fenugreek extract supplement (4-OH-Ile) is added to a high oral dose of dextrose, rates of post-exercise glycogen resynthesis are enhanced above dextrose alone.

PMID: 15719265

My 93 year old grandfather buys me this supplement formula from GNC, because I cannot aford it on my own, I am a poor Nursing student. Since I’ve been taking the diabetic circulation formula which contains fenugreek/alpha lipoic acid and other ingredients my fasting blood sugar is within normal parameters, and post meal three hours are much lower to.

Fasting blood sugar avg 100, and three hour post meal 118.

Mainly used by women, to get more milk during child birth. One of the problems you might get is big tits, Unless you want big tits of course.

I’ll keep a watch out for that big tit thing.

Lots of bodybuilders use fenugreek to boost libido. It has plant sapogens, I guess you can think of them as plant hormones. I’ve used it numerous times and at varying dosages. You need to use around 4 grams a day to see good results. It takes about 7-10 days to kick in for most people but give it two weeks at least. I noticed a definite increase in libido and in semen volume. Others say it just makes your semen thicker, like elmers glue but that’s because they aren’t drinking enough water. It also makes you smell like syrup at those high dosages but that isn’t a bad thing necessarily.

It does cause lactation in women or aide in it but no cases of gyno have been reported by male users. Lots of bodybuilders use it during their PCT for libido and they don’t get gyno, and that’s a time when estrogen levels can be high. It’s cheap so you give it a shot.

As for the sugar bufffering effects, alone it won’t do too much but combined with r-alpha lipoic acid and other similar products it can have a decent effect. 6 grams every day for a week had no adverse effects on my bloodsugar whether taken with or without a meal.