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Extreme EQ, EF, and greater PE gains, thru herbal/pharma, and 2 technique/habits

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Extreme EQ, EF, and greater PE gains, thru herbal/pharma, and 2 technique/habits

Greetings forum members, this will be my first official thread here I think, unless i posted the “Urethral Tadalafil” thread here as well.
And If i did not, I’ll paste that for my 2nd thread rofl: cool:

This thread is here to explain how one can achieve a great improvement in:
1. Erection Frequency
2. Erection Quality
3. Flaccid heat, flaccid length, and flaccid girth
4. Ease and quickness of achieving erection.
5. Ease of achieving multiple-orgasm, Tantric “marathons”
6. And most importantly, aid in PE gains

It will be very wordy and detailed, and somewhat clinical in demeanor, but i think some of my personal experience will greatly help others seeking the 6 things listed above. And I feel I owe this to the forum, as the forum has helped me learn much about the natural/herbal supplements, and PE techniques, in a short time. Boards like this are a true blessing imho.
Here goes.

This first technique may initially seem difficult or even slightly dangerous, but I have done it for around ten years, and once you get the hang of it, the body reacts to it easier and easier subsequent times. Perhaps older users or users with respiratory/heart problems should not try it, as fair warning.

I used to have some difficulty, especially after orgasm, of re-achieving full erection, without resorting to holding my lungs full of very deep breaths, while frantically stroking just under the head until needing to catch my breath. I used to achieve tantric sex like this, but it was socially awkward and possibly dangerous, as my blood oxygen levels might have dropped to very poor levels for 5-10 seconds. I always wondered if this technique was similar, at least in blood chemistry, to the chemical reaction occuring in some of the asphyxiation fetishists, but i never found out. Perhaps others who know more about blood chemistry and such things can theorize or explain why this technique can achieve a near immediate re-erection, re-orgasm, even just minutes after previous orgasms. It can be used for many orgasms in succession, although after the 3rd or fourth, the orgasms are weak and nearly dry, unless short breaking for rest or hydration is done.

I urge everyone to try this if they have not already, as an introduction to tantric sex. The detailed description is like this: About 15 seconds after your first orgasm ends, resume stroking/masturbating, take in as deep a breath as you possibly can, and hold it. Then try to take in even smaller “top off” breaths to increase the amount of air in your lungs. Your lungs should feel so full, and it will be slightly uncomfortable, but hold it in. This whole time, you should be rapidly stimulating your glans, and over 20 seconds or so, you will feel the urge to expel the huge breath, and take in another. But you must hold the breath in, until you feel orgasm coming, and it will. When the orgasm feels as if it is certain, back off the stroking slightly, and let out the breath, taking in another deep breath as deep as you can, and more top off breaths. Edge towards orgasm again, which should be a very short time, and after edging like this 2-3 times, you should be back at at least a 90% erection. After that you can resume intercourse or masturbation as you normally would, and go for the 2nd orgasm. The longer you wait to deliver the 2nd orgasm, the higher the volume of semen will be. But it will no doubt be a lower volume than your first orgasm, markedly so.

This above breath technique was my first technique, to produce more frequent erections and multiple orgasms, back-to-back in short periods of time, that I discovered as a young teenager. I remember not long after discovering it, it was not uncommon for me to take long showers (LOL) during which i would have sessions of 6-7 orgasms in approx. 30 minutes or so. It was very rare for me to have less than 3 orgasms during masturbation as a teenager, and often this would take under 15 minutes. I quickly grew to love this breath technique, and it also helped my Cardio as an athelete, as my lung capacity and lung strength was increased.

However, the EQ of the subsequent erections was often less compared to the initial erection, unless i edged several times more, for each subsequent orgasm, and even then, overall, sometimes after marathon masturbation sessions of 5 or more orgasms without break, my EQ and flaccid hang would decrease for at least 18-24 hours after the marathon. It was still always possible to get an erection with manual stimulation, but the vigor with which it went up, and the overall hardness when it was up, was somewhat less for the following day after these 7-orgasm or more marathons. Sometimes certain meals/foods helped to bring about a quicker return to full EQ/EF, but as a teenager, i did not understand the relationship of certain foods to this.

I also noticed that following masturbation orgasm, my desire was not strong following orgasm, yet after intercourse orgasm, especially when I remained still during orgasm, and especially in looser partners, I seemed to retain far more desire to both immediately seek a 2nd orgasm, but also retained more desire during the following day, with no “drop off” or recovery needed. I did not fully understand at the time, and theorized on anything from divine design to something like “self subliminal punishment”, and many other things. I had no idea why or what caused this, but I knew by feeling that something was different.

Later, almost by accident, I found a 2nd, incredibly simple technique/practice/habit, that explained why my post-masturbation libido/eq to that point, was less, when compared to my post-intercourse libido/EQ. This 2nd simple habit/practice/technique is what allowed not only for a far greater EQ of these subsequent erections, but also for a much longer/thicker/warmer and heavier flaccid hang, as well as a much stronger desire for intercourse or masturbation, at literally any time. this practice/technique, after some time, eliminated “turtling” altogether, even before my aggressive supplementation and dietary habits began. this technique, for a presumably physiological reason unknown to me, seems to be able to give full orgasm pleasure, and full release of semen, yet somehow seems to retain nearly all of the desire and yearn, as if one had never orgasmed. If you try it, you will see what I mean.

Prior to discovering this, during masturbation orgasm, I used to agressively, with pressure, stroke the head and glans, particularly focusing the friction on the prepuce/Coronal ring (bottom ring of glans where it attaches to shaft). While agressive rubbing of the prepuce/corona does produce what i would call the “highest quality orgasmic sensation”, it, without exception, and everytime I have done it, seems to drain desire and fire from the libido for 18-24 hours. I assume the reason is a mediation of the cGMP cycle by fine nerve endings concentrated in the glans/prepuce/corona/frenulum.

Nonetheless, when orgasming, either during intercourse, or masturbation, and abstaining from any direct, pressured friction to the glans/prepuce/corona, desire and erection seem to remain. Ejaculate volume is still about 90% of what it normally would be during glans/prepuce/corna stimulation. The orgasm is slightly less intense, and only about 80-90% satisfying in comperison, but if glans/prepuce/frenular/coronal friction is absent during orgasm, the erection and desire are retained, and the retention only grows greater with long periods of abstaining from glans or coronal/prepuce friction/stimulation during orgasm. After several weeks of doing this, my desire was almost at early puberty levels, even though it was nearly a decade later. i noticed myself with urges I hadn’t felt in some time, urges to impregnate even moderately attractive females. Not intercourse, but the specific desire to impregnate was vivid.

i have continued doing this for around 5 years now. Only 4 times have I tested this, by going back to full glans/prepuce/coronal friction during orgasm, and each time I did, I noticed a decrease of EQ and EF the following days, as well as a lowered desire. As soon as i resumed orgasm without friction on the glans/prepuce for a week or so, that burning desire and perpetual 24/7 15% erection (heavy thick flaccid hang) was back again. And when going for the marathons of multiple orgasms, even the 7th or 8th orgasm will still have a very high erection quality, so long as one abstains from glans/prepuce/coronal friction during the orgasms themselves.

It is such a simple technique, but it is well documented that not only do more frequent and turgid erections cause greater enjoyment for both partners, but these sorts of increased blood flow during flaccid states, and as well as increased heat, can aid PE gains, as it is a sort of natural ADS, all day engorgement, albeit a very slight one.

Note that in all stages of intercourse or masturbation leading up to orgasm, I have frequent and even intense friction directed at the glans/prepuce/coronal ridge, and this has no effect either way, I have tested. The lack of glans/prepuce/coronal friction is only required to be absent during orgasm, and also absent in the short periods immediately before and after orgasm.

I have recently decided to embark once again on PE, and to be more dedicated this time, as most of my previous years i had just done some very light stretching/ligpop(never for sustained time), and some “at the urinal jelqs”, just basically minimal exercises when convienient. Ocassionally i would do light pumping as well(jerking in pump), and once a month or so i would do some heavy jelqing/edging/uli/clamping(with cockring) masturbation sessions, but their frequency was always minimal due to inconvienience/schedule/etc. And often i ejaculated at the end of those sessions, losing some of the pump from the session, making the tissue repair happen in a less engorged state.

One of the first things I have done during this last few months of re-embarking, has been lots of research on herbs and their specific compounds, those compounds half-lifes and mechanisms of action. PE forums and their users have been a catalyst blessing in this regard. i have basically assembled a lengthy list of Herbs, barks, and aminos, based partly on existing libido products formulas, partly on PE forum users’ recommendation, and partly on my own knowledge of nutrition and diet.

Let me first preface by saying that I naturally eat alot of Garlic, Onions, Cumin, Turmeric, Fenugreek, Black pepper, Rosemary, Cayenne, and Ginger, as well as many other spices/culinary herbs, fruits and vegetables which keep the body healthy and strong, but the aforementioned spices/garlic/onions have the greatest benefit to PE, as they are vasodialators and co-factors for certain reactions of the sexual organs. So of course that will continue. i have also within the last year or so been taking high end liquid multivitamins daily, and I’m sure this has not hurt. Nor has increased water intake. But let me get to the PE-specific supplements, and the supplements, which I believe have been the most important to my recent upsurge of off the charts, best-in-my-life, yes “better than puberty” erection quality and erection frequency. I am not exaggerating.

The following list is quite extensive, and yes, I understand many of you may have concerns of high dosage when coupled with the multi-vitamin, but all the levels are within USDA upper limits. I am also a large person, well over 6 feet tall and over 200 lbs. with a high metabolism and high usage rate of most vitamins and minerals, so perhaps smaller, less active people should take accordingly smaller doses. While this difference is slight, not directly proportional to BMI but more gradual, feel free to make your own changes.

Here is what I have been taking, every alternate day unless specified, taking 3 days off in a row twice monthly, as to not let the body get too used to them, in addition to the tantric breathing, and lack of glans/prepuce friction during orgasm, and the dietary/vitamins previously noted in this thread:

Amino acids/proteins:
Zinc amino acid chelate 30mg monday, 50mg wednesday, 80mg saturday
Maca root powder 3 grams
Hemp & Whey powder (BioChem) 15 grams
Nutiva Organic HempShake 30 grams
Egg Albumin Protein peptide 800mg
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate 2:1 1200mg (only twice weekly)
L-Arginine 1800mg )
L-Ornithine 585mg (from 750mg L-Ornithine HCL)
L-Lysine 2000mg (from 2500mg l-Lysine HCL)
L-Cysteine 500mg
L-Tyrosine 500mg
L-Methionine 1000mg

Oils/fatty acids:
Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega 5ml
Nordic Naturals Omega 3-6-9 5ml
Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg (best all purpose antioxidant, increased nerve health for sensitivity)
Lots of Sesame/Canola/Coconut/Olive oils when cooking, I mean lots!

Herbs/Barks/seeds:
Stinging Nettle leaf/root powder 90mg (DHT blocker to protect hair/prostate from hormone increase)
Nettle Root extract 16:1 10mg “
Tribulus Terrestris concentrate 150mg (80mg sterols) (mild plant steroidal effect, hormone increaser)
Ginseng root 1500mg (150mg ginsenosides) (very light hormone increase, sterols)
Bee Pollen 1140mg (sterols, vasodialator, in addition to nutrition benefits)
Bee Propolis 2:1 extract 150mg
Royal Jelly Concentrate 90mg (=300mg royal jelly)
Oat Tops Extract 5:1 (Avena Sativa) 500mg (saponins, beta-sitasterol, very very mild steroidal effect)
Epimedium Leaf (Goat weed) 50mg (Saponins, PDE5 inhibitor like Viagra/Cialis, quercetin source)
Gotu Kola leaf/stem 500mg
Saw Palmetto berry 150mg (prevents T to DHT conversion to protect hair/prostate from hormone increase)
Siberian Eleuthero root 100mg (adaptogen, adrenal stimulant, ginseng cofactor)
Fo-Ti root 100mg (natural chrysin like effects)
Licorice Root 50mg (possible discontinuation pending further phytoestrogen research)
Gingko Biloba 150mg (24% glycosides[antioxidant], 6% terpene lactones) (improves bloodflow thru vasodialation, decreases stress)
Damiana leaf powder 500mg
Sarsaparilla root 50mg (Saponins, phytosterols and co-factor for ginseng)
Wild Yam Extract 100mg (possibly discontinuing pending further progesterone research)
Cassia Bark 50mg
Pine bark Extract 100mg (oligomeric proanthocyanadins to protect hair follicles form any increased hormone)

Pharmaceuticals:
Liquid Tadalafil .5ml (10mg) (PDE5 inhibitor) (every 3rd=4th day, taking a week off approx. every other week)

With this combination for the last 7 months, my EQ is really insane, it stays super mega throbbing hard once erection is initiated, even during the times when I haven’t taken Cialis for a week. i have achieved a 24/7 perpetual 30% erection, and can quite literally get fully erect on demand in under 2 minutes, with basic manual stimulation, even less time to full throbbing erection with a warm mouth sucking. i mean like rock hard throbbing 110%, and that erection will last and last even past multiple orgasms. As long as the manual stimulation is there, the erection will stay 110% for hours and hours. I have not tested it past maybe 5 hours, or past 11 orgasms, but i am interested to test this out, schedule permitting, as we have all seen the tunica expansion and permanent gains that resulted from high flow priapism.

I have already seen noticaeable gains in both erect length and erect girth, during these several months of supplementation, coupled with erect jelqing/edging/bends, light-clamping(with cockring). I can only imagine what intense exercises are going to do in my next few months of intense PE. In addition to the erect gains, my current flaccid length and width are about 6.25”nbpfl, and around 5.5”fmg, and it is even very hot and sensitive during flaccid hang, expanding and elongating at the most minimal stimulation, sometimes just the reverse kegel of urination will produce a 70% erection, a hard pushing reverse kegel for 20-30 seconds will produce a 90% erection.

It is these noticed gains and extreme EQ/EF which have served as the motivation to really go full blast with focused, dedicated PE.
I am going to focus more on length than girth, and I humbly ask the board to bare with me, as i will be asking some very detailed questions, all of them in earnest, as I attempt to really glean as much knowledge as I can from the PE board members. in doing so, I am quite sure I will help others discover new methods and habits for their own PE.

I am in the process of adding several more supplements, some for very limited overload training use, others for long term use, after i am sure that the side effects can be eliminated by an accompanying supplement. I am also thinking of sourcing many of these aminos and herbal extracts in bulk from various botanical suppliers, as opposed to overpaying for prepackaged supplements in gelatin capsules. And I will update accordingly if these future supplements and bulk herbs/plants have high quality, or an even more pronounced effect on gains.

Wish me luck, and i hope this has helped members of the forum. :cool:


Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)

Interesting. Please keep us posted.

I have a couple of questions.

1. I was under the impression that taking vitamins and supplements and such things, especially when taken in bulk or more than the body can use, can be taxing on the liver. Wouldn’t this be the case here?
2.I used to take a couple of supplements, mainly ginkgo biloba, horny goat weed, fish oil, vitamins, and sometimes cialis. This resulted in a constant semi erection like yours, which prevented me from stretching, since you need to be flacid. Do you do manual stretches, and if not, how do you get your length gains?
3.Isn’t this taking a toll on your wallet? That is a very big list of supplements that I don’t know that neither I, nor many other people, could afford to take in the long run.


Starting stats: NBPEL:6.5 | MSEG:5.25 (around 3/1/2010)

Current stats: NBPEL:6.5 | MSEG:5.25 (around 3/1/2010)

Short-term goals NBPEL:7.25| MSEG: 5.65

Originally Posted by alex553
I have a couple of questions.

1. I was under the impression that taking vitamins and supplements and such things, especially when taken in bulk or more than the body can use, can be taxing on the liver. Wouldn’t this be the case here?
2.I used to take a couple of supplements, mainly ginkgo biloba, horny goat weed, fish oil, vitamins, and sometimes cialis. This resulted in a constant semi erection like yours, which prevented me from stretching, since you need to be flacid. Do you do manual stretches, and if not, how do you get your length gains?
3.Isn’t this taking a toll on your wallet? That is a very big list of supplements that I don’t know that neither I, nor many other people, could afford to take in the long run.

1. Definitely a valid concern, as many of the diet/weight-loss products, that are essentially “Herbal speed” can be hard on the liver, but i steer far clear of those, same as I steer clear of other vasoconstrictive stimulants such as nicotine and caffeine.

Many of the herbs/barks/roots I use actually have beneficial effects on the liver.
Especially the Ginger Root & Turmeric (I eat a sh!tload of both), and the Sarsaparilla root and Licorice root supplements, are all things which greatly help overall liver health. L-Arginine is extrememly healthy for all sorts of Liver detox, hence seeing arginine on so-many “hangover remedies” i don’t drink alcohol at all either, so I’m quite sure my liver is in good health.

2. I do manual stretches str8 down, str8 up, and to each side, and I do them with a partial 30% erection, I pull HARD. But I have been considering hanging for length gains, as length is really the thing I want more of. My girth is already nearer my end goal than my length is near my end goal. And I have been mulling over possibly dropping the tadalafil and some herbs during my serious run at hanging, if i do not see any gains from hanging semi-hard/hard, or if it feels counterproductive when doing so. I have currently taken a very extended decon break from the tadalafil, over 2 weeks now since my last dose of 10mg. And I noticed that downward pulling doesn’t get me as hard as it did when on the tadalafil, so this may be good for increasing length gains via stretching and hanging. We’ll see.

Overall with PE, I haven’t gotten much length gain so far, but I am experimenting also with focused “upper end” erect jelqs, focusing strictly on the glans and upper corpus, in an attempt to not only equalize girth, but add length by engorging the tips of the cavernosa under the glans. I think it’s working so far over the last few months, as the two tapering tips of muscle tissue seem to be less tapered, and much “stronger”. I will be continuing this harder and harder for 6 months, and expect to see small length gains from this alone, but will also try hanging.

3. It’s not that expensive. Although some of the supplements I’m cinsidering adding are quite expensive. Most of the listed herbs and aminos can be had bulk for a relatively inexpensive price. Anyone with a modest amount of disposable income should be able to afford them all imho.


Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)


Last edited by 8 x 8 : 06-09-2010 at .

Originally Posted by 8 x 8

Note that in all stages of intercourse or masturbation leading up to orgasm, I have frequent and even intense friction directed at the glans/prepuce/coronal ridge, and this has no effect either way, I have tested. The lack of glans/prepuce/coronal friction is only required to be absent during orgasm, and also absent in the short periods immediately before and after orgasm.

I was very curious and have tried this technique for the past couple days, during masturbation and intercourse. I was shocked to see that my EQ was much greater and frequent, and my sexual drive or desire to “impregnate” lol, as you call it, was through the roof! The only downside I can mention is that it feels as though I have not fully released all fluids, and get a mild case of “blue-balls” afterward, something I have not felt in a very long time. I wonder how long it would take my body to become accustomed to this new technique. But I can say the pros definitely outweigh the cons.

Originally Posted by snuz
I was very curious and have tried this technique for the past couple days, during masturbation and intercourse. I was shocked to see that my EQ was much greater and frequent, and my sexual drive or desire to “impregnate” lol, as you call it, was through the roof! The only downside I can mention is that it feels as though I have not fully released all fluids, and get a mild case of “blue-balls” afterward, something I have not felt in a very long time. I wonder how long it would take my body to become accustomed to this new technique. But I can say the pros definitely outweigh the cons.

Expelling all our prostatic and seminal fluid daily or at least weekly is healthy for those glands. Long term build up of prostatic fluid could be bad for older men at risk of BPH. That is why you want to make sure that your first few bursts of ejaculate are strong and full, as the first few blasts contain all the prostatic fluid.

If when performing this technique, you get the sensation that you haven’t expelled at least 90% of the ejaculate, you need more stimulation of the shaft/base during the orgasm itself, but just be sure to avoid to much friction or pressured stimulation to the glans, or near the glans on the upper shaft, during orgasm. I think that ensures that all the prostatic fluid and seminal fluids are expelled, yet the lack of stimulation to glans nerves I think maybe indicates that the release of prolactin is not triggered by the emptying of these fluids, but rather by a certain nerve signaling. I suspect that perhaps nerve endings in the glans/prepuce/coronal ridge, or frenulum at least partially regulate the release of prolactin and other hormones/enzymes which contribute to “erection detumescence”, and the immediate short-term decrease in desire that follows.

Of course even after detumescence you can perform the full breath top-off technique to quickly get back to “near the PONR”, and re-achieve erection, but the subsequent erections are just so much firmer and raise quicker to 100% when combining the breath technique with the lack of glans stimulation during orgasm.


Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)

Thanks for the great breathing tip , its really amazing

After just finishing a cup of coffee with tribulus and maca powder. I decided to give your breathing exercise a go while jelqing. Wow what a great way to power up the routine, during squeezing and clamping a jelqing and doing the breathing exercise, my girth was at 110% after letting go of my held breath and breathing in. as the air rushed back in to my body you can see the the girth throb and expand by its self. then manually clamping that expansion in and doing a few keggels. then repeating taking in a deep breath and holding really forces the blood in to the penis then when letting go it flushes out and comes back again. Also just working the base really thickens the whole thing as i forced a bit of uli up the shaft to the tip the head expansion was also unreal.

A very good breathing technique, i hope this is similar to what you get so im doing it right. A keeper as part of my routine, erections come very quick with this tip and if you repeat a few times when you already got full erection it seems to get a littler bigger and feels a little better each time.

thanks

^Well officejunior, that’s an ancillary use of taking in extremely large breaths, and holding them so the intra-avioli-pressure is increased. When doing such, we initially get a rush of oxygen, as the perfusion of oxygen into the avioli is better with the internal pressure “inflating them”. But this is not the intended use for what I have described in my original post. In my original post, I am desribing the use of taking in huge deep breaths, and then trying to take multiple tiny breaths on top of it, without letting any air out, and holding it until your body badly wants another breath, then releasing and immediately taking in another huge breath/topoffs/holding it…..and if one keeps doing this immediately after orgasm when their detumescense was already happening, it can stop detumescence in it’s tracks and produce another orgasm, whch can then be avoided and edged towards, after the breathing and frantic stroking produced another erection when one previously thought another immediate erection wasn’t possible. With these huge held in breaths one can force orgams and erection anytime in under 45seconds. But the objective in this breathing is to avoid the initial forced orgasm, only to edge towards it, then to enjoy the subsequent erection, and orgasm after some time enjoying the new forced erection. I hope i have been verbose and repetetive enough with synonym phrases to make this breath technique clear to all.


Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)

I used the masturbation technique today and I really think your on to something. It’s a shame there are such little posts because this could really help some people out (hopefully me). Having a bigger hang, and not turtling is so important to gains, every time I’ve gained it has been because of this, then of course my eq drops. Hopefully this technique will help me keep my gains and go for bigger ones! Thanks for posting!

I tried the no touching the penis head technique twice. The first time it worked a little bit- I ejaculated and felt like I only half way ejaculated in the sense that it wasn’t an intense orgasm and I still felt somewhat horny. Of course my EQ was higher than the normal after-ejaculating-EQ.

The second time was much better! I did the technique, and it barely felt like I ejaculated, and I had to check the toilet paper to make sure that I really did ejaculate. I was still just as hard, if not harder, and had around 90% of the hornyness as before. Amazing, I will continue to try this, although it will have to wait a couple of days as I will be away.


Starting stats: NBPEL:6.5 | MSEG:5.25 (around 3/1/2010)

Current stats: NBPEL:6.5 | MSEG:5.25 (around 3/1/2010)

Short-term goals NBPEL:7.25| MSEG: 5.65

8x8,

thank you very much for sharing your experience.
When you do the breathing technique, do you also kegal?


More meat - More fun! :D ***April 2006 - 9.5" BPFSL***August 2008 - 9.65" BPFSL, 9.35" BPEL***

Great thread. It’s been a while since I read anything “new”. I will try these techniques and report back.


I'm fed up of having a signature!

Thanks 8x8

I used the breathing technique today to be able to go quicker form one “dry mini orgasm” to another while edging.

Worked great!

Will try it some other day with ejaculating to, and the shaft only.

Originally Posted by willywilly38

Thanks 8x8

I used the breathing technique today to be able to go quicker form one “dry mini orgasm” to another while edging.

Worked great!

Will try it some other day with ejaculating to, and the shaft only.

I think you misunderstood, the breathing technique is used for multiple full orgasms, the orgasms don’t become “1-2 drops/mostly dry” until like the 5th orgasm within 1-2 hours. the breathing is to force the onset of a subsequent orgasm, then one must stop before the orgasm releases, and a full erection will return, then you can proceed to perform as you would and have another orgasm, then do the breath technique again to force orgasm onset, stopping to allow the sensation of orgasm onset to produce another subsequent 100% erection. One can have as many “wet” orgasms as they wish if they use this “holding in deep breaths” to force subsequent orgasm onset, over and over and over. But after the 5th orgams or so, the orgasms will be mostly “dry”, although adequate hydration and Maca root intake can produce more semen volume and make it so even the 7th or 8th orgasm in a 2 hour period has more than a drop of semen.


Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)

But that technique is from before I was taking supplements, and needed to re-force full erection by holding the breath.
Now I do not need to do this anymore, although perhaps I should to maintain lung strength, and I am planning to attempt a record setting number of consecutive orgasms sometime soon, I want to maybe see if I don’t get lazy after the first few orgasms, and have the interst to go for a dozen or so over several hours. i have not done this for some time, and I might just do it tonite…..I have made up my mind/will and after my work out. I WILL have over a dozen “wet” orgasms tonite. I feel less lazy perhaps due to the new addition of the tribestan.

As for the supplement side of things:

I have added several supplements, some marketed as libido boosters, others as cognitive enhancers(with ingredients that alos increase EQ as side effect):
These are being taken at the same intervals as the other supplements in my first post, every other day unless specified:

L-Citrulline free-form powder 1gm
L-Theanine serene w GABA tablet
Cognitex w/ Pregnonelone softgel
Muira Puama root 600mg
Eurycoma Longfolia extract 100:1 280mg (noticeable steroid effect I believe)
Crucifereous Veggie extract with resveratrol (to prevent aromatization)
Chrysin 5,7 capsule 1000mg (some aromatase inhibition)
Tribestan tablet (strong steroidal effect)

I have also increased my Maca consumption in my shakes about a half gram.
I also took 5mg of Cialis on saturday, my first dose of Cialis in 2 weeks. I think these decon breaks are really helpful in maximising the effects of these supplements. It seems the effects are even greater this go round than any previous one. Perhaps the fact that the L-citrulline bypasses the liver to form it’s NO in the muscle tissue(unlike arginine) has had a further hardening effect. I also think the increase of hormone from Tribestan, Pregnonelone, and Eurycoma have had a noticed effect. I am going to research more to see if there are any downsides to permanent high-flow priapism, as I think just a little more of these at closer intervals might produce a near constant 70% erection, just flaccid enough to bend it down inside the briefs. Over this last 3 days, my current flaccid girth and flaccid length are quite near their erect counterparts, it is the fullest, most swollen flaccid yet. My erections are not really getting much bigger, just much stiffer than their flaccid size. And my sensitivity has been apparent all weekend with my swollen head pushing at the inside of my briefs. just a small 30 seconds of kissing, coupled with a reverse kegel held for those 30 seconds, and I am 95% erect. My EQ is it’s highest ever. And due to my focused erect queezes, i feel like my head girth/under-head-girth is getting closer to my mid girth every session.

I have also decreased my dosage of L-Methionine to 100mg or less daily, due to non-PE related concerns about elevated Homocysteine levels causing minor arterial damage if taken for many years. I am first and foremost interested in living to be a healthy centenarian, and although I eat a low cholesterol, low saturated fat diet, and take folic acid and niacin, in conjunction with very high levels of B-6 and B-12 in my liquid multivitain, I still desire to keep homocysteine levels as low as possible.

I will keep everyone posted on any new supplements following these new additions.


Current size: BPEL: 7.9" EG: 6.75"

Realistic goal: BPEL: 9.25" EG: 7.5"

Unrealistic surgical goal: 12" x 8.5" :)

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