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Ephedra??

It does have guaifenesin in it, but guaifenesin is not known to have any harmful effects — all it does is supposedly loosen up phlegm, but I have never noticed any effect at all. I agree I would never take a medicine that had painkillers in it if I didn’t need them, since both Tylenol and all the NSAIDs can do damage if overused (liver and stomach problems, respectively).

I like ephedrine for gym energy when I’m exhausted, and I’d prefer if I could buy it without any other meds included. However, I feel safer buying Bronkaid from a legitimate pharma company than one of the supposed ephedrine/ephedra pills online, since the FDA has restricted the substance pretty strongly and thus I’ve heard a lot of the online supps are actually other substances being substituted. Let me know if you buy one of the online sources and you find that it seems legit (based on your experiences taking the real deal in the past). Personally the only online “black market” drugs I trust are the ones I know are coming from a major pharma manufacturer in India, like all those Viagra/Cialis knock-offs.


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Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
It does have guaifenesin in it, but guaifenesin is not known to have any harmful effects — all it does is supposedly loosen up phlegm, but I have never noticed any effect at all. I agree I would never take a medicine that had painkillers in it if I didn’t need them, since both Tylenol and all the NSAIDs can do damage if overused (liver and stomach problems, respectively).

I like ephedrine for gym energy when I’m exhausted, and I’d prefer if I could buy it without any other meds included. However, I feel safer buying Bronkaid from a legitimate pharma company than one of the supposed ephedrine/ephedra pills online, since the FDA has restricted the substance pretty strongly and thus I’ve heard a lot of the online supps are actually other substances being substituted. Let me know if you buy one of the online sources and you find that it seems legit (based on your experiences taking the real deal in the past). Personally the only online “black market” drugs I trust are the ones I know are coming from a major pharma manufacturer in India, like all those Viagra/Cialis knock-offs.

Thanks Bro:)


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Ephedrine is a really watered down substance compared to the real deal. This is why you can still buy it legally. Pure Ephedra, (Ma hung extract) is getting hard to find now, almost impossible thanks to the misguided FDA. I once lost over 130 pounds on Ma hung just doing basic cardio. It’s great stuff, but like a lot of “Great Stuff” it has become one of the FDA’s whipping boys. If you buy Ephedra from any illegal source, which is about the only way to get it, you will know it by the smell. Pure Ma hung has a very distinct smell, odor actually. It is horrible, and tastes even worse. I gag thinking about it. If you are not getting the gag factor when you open a cap and smell/taste it, your shit is probably diluted, like most of the ephedrine products at CVS.

The only real downside to Ephedra is it raises your blood pressure, especially if you stack it with caffeine and aspirin, but taken alone I’ve never really had any of the deadly symptoms you hear in the propaganda mill, and I’ve taken a lot of it. If you research these “horror stories” as I have you will find that most of them involve people doing hard cardio on the ECA stack.

But like anything that speeds up you metabolism enough to see any real weight loss it does raises BP. If you have a BP problem you should not take it, otherwise I feel it is pretty safe. You just really have to keep an eye on it. Use a heart monitor when you do cardio, and don’t stack it.

Oh, yeah one major side effect. We’re talking some serious turtling here.


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Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine are the active bits of ephedra. If you wanted to, you could take some Sudafed alongside your Bronkaid if you dig the pseudoephedrine effects, but I say “no thanks” to those :) I think if you’re experiencing milder effects with ephedrine tabs than you did with the old ephedra tabs, BG, you probably just had more actual ephedrine per tab in the ephedra you were taking previously. You could try increasing the ephedrine dose if it’s in the safe range.

Yup it definitely has its risks, like most drugs. I think it’s supposed to be avoided by people taking certain antidepressants, along with anyone who has high blood pressure or diabetes or host of other issues.


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Dino, CVS has super green tea, just plain ol’ green tea in a high dose without any shit in it. This should help with appetite control and boost metabolism without raising blood pressure. And for me it gives me really great wood.


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Man, I love green tea :)


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Originally Posted by Para-Goomba

Man, I love green tea :)

Isn’t it great!


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With a bit of honey, it’s heaven.


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Originally Posted by Para-Goomba
With a bit of honey, it’s heaven.

Yeah now add a little lemon and ginger, really big wood from that concoction.


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I’ve purchased Chinese ephedra —ma huang — in Chinese apothecaries in Seattle’s International District, and at herb shops like Tensing Momo in Pike Place Market. I just looked in my cabinet and I still have at least an ounce that I bought within the last year. In raw form it’s little twigs, but I powderize it in an old coffee grinder and pack it into 00 gelatin capsules. Just one loosely packed capsule works for clearing my sinuses. (I’ve tried it as tea and I recall it was too peppery.) I’ve never taken enough to feel very speedy. I don’t like speedy. I never understood the appeal of crank.

I take Bronk-aid for singing. One tab an hour or two before practice or a gig, along with a beer or two to sip between songs, and I can sing pretty much anything I want. The ephedrine opens up the sinuses and the guaifenesin helps me huck up and spit out whatever crud is in my throat.

Are you on medication of any sort? If so, skip the grapefruit. The ULTIMATE breakfast is:

3 eggs, 2 with the yolk removed.
grapefruit
red pepper with very low fat cheese (i like sticking it in the oven for about 10 mins).
Also some quinoa - but oatmeal is nicer, just not complete in amino acids like the quinoa.

I know you don’t need a diet list and you are smart enough to do your own - but that hits every breakfast requirement. I won’t do the lunch and dinner for you because I already feel patronising lol.

Do you drink green tea? If not, then I recommend about 3 cups a day, it’s fantastic for weight loss with a bit of lemon in it, to mop up all the health benefits.

Also, as you probably know - chilli can boost metabolism by about 25%, I read about it in mens health. I know from personal experience that cayenne pepper is the best for this, along with many other health benefits.

Another little trick is ice cold water (hopefully with some cider vinegar in it if you are brave)… the body has to burn calories to get the cold water to body temperature :D


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I don’t want to turn this into a diet thread but I appreciate your input:) . I usually eat a big bowl of whole grains cereal with a banana cut up in it and sometimes seedless grapes also in skim milk. every now and that I treat myself to eggs and whole grain toast. I do eat healthy but not crazy healthy my biggest problem is portion control. It takes a couple of weeks to ween myself into smaller meals without me feeling to hungry, I have a very active job and work up an appetite. A supplement like Ephedra just makes it easier and than once I see the weight coming off I can do it on my own.

Originally Posted by Herballist
Are you on medication of any sort? If so, skip the grapefruit. The ULTIMATE breakfast is:

3 eggs, 2 with the yolk removed.
grapefruit
red pepper with very low fat cheese (i like sticking it in the oven for about 10 mins).
Also some quinoa - but oatmeal is nicer, just not complete in amino acids like the quinoa.

I know you don’t need a diet list and you are smart enough to do your own - but that hits every breakfast requirement. I won’t do the lunch and dinner for you because I already feel patronising lol.

Do you drink green tea? If not, then I recommend about 3 cups a day, it’s fantastic for weight loss with a bit of lemon in it, to mop up all the health benefits.

Also, as you probably know - chilli can boost metabolism by about 25%, I read about it in mens health. I know from personal experience that cayenne pepper is the best for this, along with many other health benefits.

Another little trick is ice cold water (hopefully with some cider vinegar in it if you are brave)… the body has to burn calories to get the cold water to body temperature :D


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Okay, then I will give you one bit of advice for portion sizes… I am determined to help you lmao.

Drink half a pint or more of water before each meal :D

hehe.


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