Ephedra is back !!

[QUOTE=Philadelph]
^^^ It is actually harder to make meth out of ephedrine than it is psuedo-ephedrine.

I’m actually glad I didn’t know that.

It never really went away, not that there’s anything wrong with Utah. Labels just don’t say ‘ephedra’. “Mini-Ephedrine” has been around for a while. It only contains 12.5mg ephedrine and 200 mg guaifenesin, but helps me get through my workouts.

I have never tried it.

Has anyone tried Hoodia Gordonii? It might be a PE friendly sup. Ephedra really shrinks up the old wanger

Oh Great Day!!
There was a bullshit Ephedra ban over ~200 deaths that may or may not have been related- with how many billions doses sold and consumed worldwide? Think a moment.

ECA [ephedra caffeine aspirin] stack was shown to have a thermogenic effect on fat tissue- but as it wasn’t patentable [as all three ingredients are naturally occuring substance] the DRUG companies couldn’t capitalize on it.

Then it was banned. Coincidence? I think not.

The FDA and the drug conglomerate have been trying to limit consumer access to all food supplements for decades- some of the more extreme proposals would have required a prescription for your MetRx/ MyoPlex/ whey protein- hell even Vitamin C. DHEA was banned throughout the eighties. Why?

Again, the Drug companies can't make money from food supplements [okay, they can, but for purposes of this discussion, not really- they can’t work through their usual pipelines which depend on an exclusive use patent cycle.]

Doubt me? Look how the feds are going after the internet mail order knockoff/ generic pharmacies.

The meth lab argument was their “but even if” spare argument- as mentioned above, pseudoephedrine is easier for the crystal cooks.

Personally I have used ephedra both straight and in various ECA formulations, and other than an occasional shaky hand from getting too tightly jacked, I never had a side effect. I personally don’t really use it for thermogenesis/ lipolysis- I just really dig the aforementions slightly jacked feeling.

BTW- the judge is ruling for the individual's right to determine their own treatment- not that you should use it. I am all for indivdual rights- hell I hate helmet, seatbelt, public space smoking laws even though they force folks to act as I do- I even believe in universal drug decriminalization balanced by employer driven mandatory drug testing.

Tell me that a fed bureaucrat knows what is good for me- Talk about ‘nanny’ state!

I used ephedra (Herbalife) and lost a lot of weight 5 years ago. When I started PE’ing, I noticed that taking ephedra would give me “dick shrinkage” on my PE days. I hated that.

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