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I have been on finasteride for a while.

Went on it because I did some steroid cycles that are harsh on the hairline.

I still saw extra hairs in the tub, but I still have a full head of hair.

I think it really only helped fight the balding process, and it has done nothing to help in dick growth. (Neither do steroids, before somebody asks that stupid question again.)

Originally Posted by pocopeepee
I have been on finasteride for a while.
Went on it because I did some steroid cycles that are harsh on the hairline.
I still saw extra hairs in the tub, but I still have a full head of hair.
I think it really only helped fight the balding process, and it has done nothing to help in dick growth. (Neither do steroids, before somebody asks that stupid question again.)

My gains pretty much stopped when I went on Generic Propecia I do wonder if it had something to do with it. I may cycle off for a while but I have had good hair results with it. Well something to ponder:)


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

pocopeepee maybe I’m wrong but I imagine the idea in that book must be that the improvement in pe would occur at a stage after having taken finasteride for a while and then Stopped. The finasteride Lowers dht levels while you are actually taking it.

Originally Posted by BigFatLuvRocket
Because like it or not, we all start out female.

And like it or not, some of us still aren’t far from it.

Greetings ~

Having just re-read Pezzi’s books, his thesis is that finasteride taken for a not less than six months drops DHT so much (say 70%) that the few androgen receptors that remain in the penile tissue of a mature male become sensitized to DHT. Pezzi is fair in stating that the biochemistry is not well understood and he suspects that there are, in my words, cofactors that work together with DHT to effect a burst of penile growth once cycling is stopped. Pezzi emphasizes NO ENLARGEMENT EXERCIZES whatsoever during the androgen deprivation phase because of the potential for severe regression - but, once off of finasteride for several days, then to resume PE activity. Ranges of finasteride mentioned were 1-5 mg daily and a more accurate doseage could only be fine tuned by tracking serum DHT via blood samples (my take).

What concerns me most about this apparent one-time event of Pezzi’s is that 1) ~80% of the gains were lost over time, and 2) I saw no evidence of any repeat trials. Still, in an attempt to be fair, if PE were not rigorously pursued after the cycling so as to solidify the gains, losses would result. As for caveat 2 above, 6 months of finasteride is not a trivial undertaking and I suspect few men would do all the testing necessary as well as take the finasteride in face of an uncertain outcome as we all vary enough in our individual biochemistry(s) to raise the spectre of failure on this.

In conclusion, I believe Pezzi is correct in asserting that the real challenge in enlargement is not that there is insufficient DHT - rather, the attenuation of the population of viable androgen receptors over time becomes accute and the growth/regrowth limiting factor (stem cells anyone?).

Cheers,

MrTiPS

I am putting together a list of the relevant publications at the bottom of the following post:

penismith - Science of PE Posts and Threads. Link Here!

This list is by no means complete and I will not finish it for some time.

Based on what I have read, I doubt that dihydrotestosterone (DHT) or testosterone application will enlarge the penis of most men in absence of an unknown factor or factors. One of those factors may be the down regulation of penile androgen receptors as Dr. Pezzi hypothesizes.

I think that we need a lot more information on the mechanism of puberty induced penile enlargement and diseases that enlarge or decrease the size of the penis if we are to define possible co-factors.

PS, that’s a great post! Thanks for all the work that went into it.

Mr Tips, good to see you around here again. I did think you might have been Dr. Pezzi, because you are very knowledgeable, but now after reading your recent posts (to throw me off) I’ve given up that theory.

For those of you that do try the DHT cycle and are worried about the prostate, I recommend having your significant other massage your prostate every 3+ months. Yes with a finger or two. I have mine do it, and entering middle age I don’t want to have to get up in the middle of the night to pee like other guys my age are starting to do. Urologists do it when you have a prostate infection, but I think pre-emptively doing it is better. Questions, google it in medical journals. My prostate is small like I was 20. Oh, if your significant other massages the output mechanism for your prostate at the same time (penis) it can be enjoyable to boot.

Hi Figaro (you lucky Dog, you - I’m having jealousy spasms ref your private privates masseuse - what a deal!)

Anyway, no I’m not Dr Pezzi - he’s much more hansome and richer than I am. I am working on my second million $ though (having gotten tired of trying for the 1st million). But, thanks for the welcome back.

Seriously though, having recently gone through quite a seige with my own prostate (BPH), your comments about prostate massage are spot on. However, since my SO is blond, I might have a difficult time getting her to use both hands in the manner I believe you allude to, above. Sighhhhhhh …

All the Best,

MrTiPS

Hey MrTips,

how long did it take Pezzi to gain after quitting the fin? Also, how much did he gain?

Thanks,
mcn


More meat - More fun! :D ***April 2006 - 9.5" BPFSL***August 2008 - 9.65" BPFSL, 9.35" BPEL***

Hi MCN,

Not sure he says exactly how big he really got. I recall his starting stats before cycling off finasteride as something like 5+ inches long and 4.6-4.8 in girth (my recollection, not exact #’s). I’m guessing he had a burst of growth of maybe an inch or two in length plus a tremendous amount of engorgement based on his subjective description of the heat he felt in his genitals and other factors. Most of the growth occurred in about 3-4 weeks once the effects of finasteride were fully flushed and his DHT came back to a more normal range.

Dr Pezzi is a serious researcher and experimenter. As a professional controls and systems engineer myself, I have a good deal of respect for Pezzi having checked into some of the stuff he’s invented both inside and outside the medical arena as well as cross-checked some of the references he sites in his publications. I take him quite seriously.

What Pezzi has written about the effects of Prostaglandins on vaginal texture and sexual enjoyment for both men and women is very illuminating. We guys knock ourselves out trying for a larger package where, as Pezzi correctly points out, it’s much easier for a woman to tighten her vagina and improve the texture of the vaginal lining than it is for a man to grow a bigger dick. If both parties would communicate and work together, their mutual bonding and love life would be greatly enhanced. JMHO based on what I’ve read.

All the Best,

MrTiPS

I just went off Propecia and will let you guys know if I get a growth spurt. I do know this while on Propecia my gains pretty much stopped.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
I just went off Propecia and will let you guys know if I get a growth spurt. I do know this while on Propecia my gains pretty much stopped.

You’ll defiantly be more horny thats for sure, I ran out of proscar for 8 weeks, talk about a rebound effect, better than being 16 again. Lost alot of hair though.

Originally Posted by Johnny Inches
You’ll defiantly be more horny thats for sure, I ran out of proscar for 8 weeks, talk about a rebound effect, better than being 16 again. Lost alot of hair though.

Did it come back after you started again. And I’m extremely horny :)


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

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