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Closing down all the generic drug web sites/and finding open sites for generic drugs

Loratadine is probably fine because it’s a second gen antihistamine. I just avoid anti-inflammatory (ibuprofen and naproxen) as well as first gen antihistamines like Benadryl or Pseudoephedrine because they can contribute to ED and might counteract these meds to some degree (how much I don’t know.) An erection is a essentially a “swelling” so to speak and both of those reduce swelling.

There’s a phenelephrine nasal spray that I like to use for localized effect on the nose. (It’s just antihistimine.)

Great info! Thanks again!!

Originally Posted by WhiteNoise309
Loratadine is probably fine because it’s a second gen antihistamine. I just avoid anti-inflammatory (ibuprofen and naproxen) as well as first gen antihistamines like Benadryl or Pseudoephedrine because they can contribute to ED and might counteract these meds to some degree (how much I don’t know.) An erection is a essentially a “swelling” so to speak and both of those reduce swelling.
There’s a phenelephrine nasal spray that I like to use for localized effect on the nose. (It’s just antihistimine.)

Increasing Vardenafil's half-life

After reading about Vardenafil from Purchase Peptides I gave them a try. So far, all positive.
Lowest price I’ve seen, reasonable delivery time, and responsive to my email about the wrong tracking number.
John Smith got me the correct number quickly.

In my search around the net for what is the normal half-life, I find it is about the same as Viagra. 4 to 5 hours.
I used 20mg with great results. 10 & 15 not that great.

One website that popped up was druginformation.com.
Under the heading “Drug Interactions”, they mentioned some that appear to increase
The half-life by a considerable amount.
Indinavar causes a 2-fold increase in half life, while causing a 7-fold increase in Vardenafil’s Cmax.
I looked up Cmax, and it is “Maximum Concentration”.
Ritonovar, or Ritinovar, I saw it spelled both ways, increases half-life to 26 hours. That would be nice.
Other drugs mentioned were Erythomycin, and Ketoconazole.
Some of these are HIV Protease Inhibitors.
I don’t know if any are available at reasonable prices.

So my question is: Has anyone ever heard of anything that can be used to extend the useful time of Vardenafil?

Originally Posted by WhiteNoise309

I’ve been on the hunt for avanafil in solid form too (powder or pills.) So far everything I’ve found is very expensive.

I see companies selling raw powder on Alibaba but I’d have to contact them for pricing info and I have no idea what quantities they sell yet.

I too am interested in powder avanafil. Got quotes ranging from $80 for 100 grams to $900. How do you know what companies you can trust and are not selling powdered paint? I don’t want to low ball this but not sure why there is such a big discrepancy in quotes

Originally Posted by Nudgetracker

I too am interested in powder avanafil. Got quotes ranging from $80 for 100 grams to $900. How do you know what companies you can trust and are not selling powdered paint? I don’t want to low ball this but not sure why there is such a big discrepancy in quotes

I contacted the guy that sold me 30G of tadalafil and he said he does have avanafil. His quote is $89 for 10g of avanafil, and $69 for 30g of tadalafil (which is more than I paid. I recently got 30g tadalfil for $43.) That seems really high price considering one dose of avanafil is 100mg-200mg (that’s only 100-50 doses in 10g for $89.) If you want to contact him for a quote his contact info is in this post and you can see what he says. His tadalafil was top notch so I expect his avanafil would be good (but seems expensive.)

So I don’t have an answer. I think most of these suppliers have the real thing. The only lab I know of where you can submit a sample to be tested wants $200 per test (per pill, but I suppose they’d take a powder) which defeats the purpose of getting cheap meds :)

I guess you have to take the gamble. I think it’s pretty easy to identify avanafil crystal powder as opposed to like paint. You’ll be able to tell it’s at least a crystalline drug but not necessarily exactly which drug. One way to test is to put some in a liquid where avanafil is non-soluble (water and alcohol) and it should not dissolve, but should settle to the bottom. I should only dissolve in hydrochloric acid or another organic solvent.

I think about $1/gram is the right price range. So $80 for 100 grams sounds like the right ballpark.


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Liquid dosing

Just ordered some liquid avanafil, and curious about the best way to ingest for effectiveness. Administer directly in the mouth? Under tongue? In a beverage? I heard about squirting dose on a piece of bread, too! Wondering if the experienced users have some input. Thanks.

I just squirt it into the back of my mouth and swallow like taking any medicine. The avanafil I have is from progenpeptides and it’s very alcoholic (with pure pharmaceutical alcohol.) I don’t know what percentage if it’s diluted with water, but it’s very strong, bit harsh, and burns (like strong alcohol can) little going down but I don’t mind.

Yeah squirting it on bread sounds like an odd one to me, but whatever works. Originally I just added it to a shot of orange juice (or any juice.) Technically it’s a weak screwdriver :)

So I suggest just add it to a about 1oz of any juice and shoot it. Any flavored drink will do.

I’m lazy and usually in a rush so I just shake it up, draw 1ml, squirt it. 1ml is 50mg and I like to do 100mg so I do two 1ml squirts.

Just swallow it. I’m certain it will be too unpleasant under the tongue if it’s in alcohol.

Originally Posted by WhiteNoise309
I just squirt it into the back of my mouth and swallow like taking any medicine. The avanafil I have is from progenpeptides and it’s very alcoholic (with pure pharmaceutical alcohol.) I don’t know what percentage if it’s diluted with water, but it’s very strong, bit harsh, and burns (like strong alcohol can) little going down but I don’t mind.
Yeah squirting it on bread sounds like an odd one to me, but whatever works. Originally I just added it to a shot of orange juice (or any juice.) Technically it’s a weak screwdriver :)
So I suggest just add it to a about 1oz of any juice and shoot it. Any flavored drink will do.
I’m lazy and usually in a rush so I just shake it up, draw 1ml, squirt it. 1ml is 50mg and I like to do 100mg so I do two 1ml squirts.
Just swallow it. I’m certain it will be too unpleasant under the tongue if it’s in alcohol.

I’ve read through the thread and see that you’ve tried a handful of the liquid forms. Curious about the side effects you’ve experienced. I know everyone responds differently to different meds, but would be nice to have a baseline for comparison. Thanks for all your insight in this thread, has been very helpful. Oh, and I did purchase through progenpeptides. Used the freeship code and while I didn’t get free shipping, I did get the 45% discount — $23.11 delivered. Should have it today, so I’ll report back after dosing. Much obliged!

Side effects from the avanafil (progenpeptides) is facial flushing (face feels hot) and a significantly stuffy nose. I’ll notice the facial flushing within 15 minutes of taking it and the stuffy nose 30-60 min in.
Sometimes I get a bit of stomach discomfort but I don’t know if that’s just because of the alcohol which is another good reason to use juice. You can sometimes get a headache but not necessarily. I don’t get any muscle or back pain from it, mainly the facial flushing and stuffy nose are the telltale side effects that it’s working.

I use a nasal spray. I like the phenylephrine nasal spray from CVS pharmacy for the stuffy nose. Taking decongestant pills, antihistamines, and anti-inflammatories can contribute to ED so it may counteract the avantages slightly? For that reason take tylenol for your headache, not ibuprophen or naxproxen (until after sex) as tylenol is not an anti-inflammatory like the other two are.

By way of comparison tadalafil lasts 2-3 days so I get some inflammation around the discs in areas where I have back problems which causes soreness. Also I’ll get hip pain sometimes. Nothing sever, just uncomfortable. I always get consistent headache the next day so I have to take something for it. If I’ve already had sex I’ll take naproxen for my back.

I did get a bad bottle of avanafil from progenpeptides recently. I didn’t bother complaining because I have 8 bottles that I picked up from various sales and so far the others have been good. I chalk it up to a mistake or quality control issue (after all I think this is an amateur operation.)
The liquid was almost totally clear and not white at all. It’s like the severely under-dosed the bottle because when I let it settle there was about 1/4 the amount of drug (barely any) as the others. When settled there should be about (estimate from memory) about 3mm or so of powder at the bottom. Shake it up just before drawing your dose and it should be white. It shouldn’t be very clear. If it is complain and get a replacement. I don’t expect you’ll have a problem because like I said the other bottles have been consistently good.
If you take 2ml (100mg) and don’t feel facial flushing or stuffy nose, then it’s probably not working.

My advice, try it some evening when you don’t need it to work and just see if you get side effects. It only lasts 6 hours or so, so you can take it again in about 12 hours. You can also take up to 200mg (4ml) but I’d reserve that for sex and use 100mg if you’re just testing.

Received avanafil from progenpeptides and did a test dose of 100ml. While the intended results were there, so were the side affects in spades. I only had mild sniffles for a bit, but what was the most uncomfortable was the increase in body heat. Not just getting a flush face but a sweat-breaking, clothes-shedding, full-body meltdown! Then the mild headache (which lingered for several hours) and a little nausea. I’ve used Cialas and Viagra in pill form before and had very minor side effects. Nothing like this. If I didn’t know any better, I would have thought I was coming down with a flu. Having said that, hard as rock, which means the ratio is probably good. My question is does the body acclimate somewhat to prolonged usage? I’m going to try a 50ml dose next time to see if the results are still there without the extreme side affects. First time using avanafil, so I may have reacted to it the same way in pill form.

Couldn’t find any tadalafil liquid during my peptides quest, so I’ll keep checking. Since pill form has worked like a charm in the past, I can’t help but wonder what the liquid response/side effects will be. Stay tuned, and thanks again for all the input. Much appreciated, WhiteNoise.

How much avanafil did you take? I usually take 100mg (2ml.) Sometimes the side affects are worse than others for me but I suppose that depends on if I’ve had other things like alcohol. But I don’t recall it being anything quite as bad as your described. Maybe yours was a bit overdosed? I recently got a bottle that was underdosed but that really seemed to be an exception.

For tadalafil I’ve been pretty happy with purchasepeptides.net About $22 per bottle. You end up paying about $10 for S&H on every order so you really have to get 2. My first order I got vardenafil too.
I think the tadalafil liquid is slightly weaker than Cialis. Maybe the liquid reduces potency or shelf life? Not sure. Anyway I seems like a out 30mg liquid is about 20mg Cialis. I usually take 1/2ml (15mg) which seems about as effective as 10mg Cialis.
It’s really hard to tell with tadalafil because it has a relatively slow onset and little to no side effects. Anyway it’s a good product, or at least very cost effective.

International peptides is another.
Grindstone Labs is another (I never used them.)
Google search: “research liquids” tadalafil
That’ll turn up a few.
https://www.eroids.com/reviews has a list of peptide shops and reviews. If nothing else it’s a list to work with on your quest.

Round 2 was a full dose of 200mg (4ml). Nice response erection-wise, but it only lasted about 30-40 minutes before the heat wave came on and the sweating started again! If I didn’t know any better, I’d say I was having hot flashes. And I’m not a sweater! Dizzy and sweaty does not make for a productive roll in the hay! Gonna pass on the remainder of the Avanifil and seek out Tadalafil from one of the other sites. If anyone has a go-to resource for liquid Tadalafil, I’m all ears. Thanks again for the insight WN!

I guess the side effects of these meds are different for different people. It’s unfortunate that you had this reaction. I’ve seen some people say they vardenafil (Levitra) works well with low side effects. It’s one you can try if you want short acting med. Also I read that sildenafil (Viagra) works “the best but has the worst side effects” but again, you never know if it might be more mild on you where it’s worse on others.

That being said, I’m unhappy with progenpeptide. First I noticed one bottle I got had hardly any powder in it. I compared all 8 bottles that I had stockpiled and noticed slight variations in the amount of settled powder in the bottom. It’s like someone scoops it, estimating, without careful measurement. Also, and worst, while most bottles smell and taste like pure ethonol, two of the newest bottles I have smell and taste absolutely awful. I can only describe the smell and taste as like alcoholic or chemical cat piss. It’s horrible. I’ve sent them a message asking for an explanation and we’ll see what they say (if anything.)
So I’m looking to try a new supplier of avanafil (short of ordering raw powder from china) but most places are out of stock or are much more expensive.
So as of now, I can’t recommend avanafil from ProgenPeptide anymore. Your experience just further reinforces that. I’d actually like to hear from people that have had a good experience with them.

I’m still pretty satisfied with purchasepeptide.net. Prices are reasonable and product quality is good and consistent. I’ve ordered from them a few times.
I’ve heard good things about blueskypeptide, internationalpeptide, and all but one person said decent things about madisonjamesresearch.

I keep going back tadalafil. The only side effect I really get is headache and sometimes I’m a bit moody or slightly emotional, especially if I don’t have sex. Unfortunately it’s a dull headache that just lasts and never goes away but tylenol generally takes care of that. If I overdose I can end up with hip pain or the back pain where I have a bit of a bad back (the discs can get a bit inflamed) which is why I originally tried avanafil, looking for something with a shorter life. But my back issues are moreless sorted out with a chiropractor and not much of an issue.

Tips with liquid tadalafil:
1) Despite what I previously said, the potency is a bit lower than pills. As one chemist explains, he believes cialis is coated to resist stomach acid but liquids are not. So you just have to take more to get the full potencty. I esitmate about 1.5x seems to match cialis. So take 30mg liquid to 20mg of cialis. Or 15mg of liquid to 10mg of cialis (that seems consistent.)
2) It works best for me if I take it 6-12 hours before sex. Sometimes I even take it 24 hours ahead because it works best the 2nd day. I’ll take 15mg-30mg of liquid. Tadalafil works best when it’s built up in your system. I’ve taken a normal dose one day, then every subsequent day taken 5mg (7.5mg of liquid) to maintain (equivalent to “cialis daily”) for a few days. I don’t usually go more than 5 days before taking a break and detoxing but sometimes I take it anticipating sex that doesn’t happen and I keep it up until I do.
I would just start with 15mg of liquid 6-12 hours before sex and go from there.

Several years ago I tried some overseas “Tadalafil” pills and had a great response to the first two orders. Third order was weak, so I stayed away. Also have tried Viagra samples and that definitely does work. I don’t recall anything more than a mild headache with either, so I might have been better off starting with a known entity vs. Avanafil. I see that BlueSky and Purchase Peptides (now has the “s” in the url, too) have liquid Tadalafil. Did you by any chance get a discount code for PP? Not a bad price to start, but since I’d ditching the Avanafil, any discount would make me feel better.

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