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Can sexual enhancement supplements have reverse effect?

In December of 2008, I started taking a regimen of L-Arginine, Horny Goat Weed, Gingko Biloba, and recently maca. This January I started looking into PE, partially out of boredom, partially because I want a larger unit and really good EQ. However, my EQ has not gotten better. In fact, yesterday I ate a “chew” from an adult bookstore, that was supposed to act like viagra. It had ZERO effect.

I do get night and morning wood, but no spontaneous erections, and the morning wood is not of the “glass cutter” variety that I am looking for. Any thoughts on this?


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

I’ll venture a thought. Never mind that consumer products can be frauds, placebos, etc… plus the fact that supplements can go stale or diminish some type of “purity” or strength. Instead that whatever supplements you are taking and downing are fiddling/diluting your normal “supposed” make up which is technically always viewed as deficient by certain alt med types.

For instance, whatever magic super secret supplement could soak up or swat away simple shit like Vitamin C. A co factor used in nearly every body process, especially neurotransmitters.

These are just my thoughts outloud, but I do know the more shit you take, the harder it is to determine if this is the one that broke the camel’s back.


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It is p[ossilble that the enhancements are working against each other. so why not try just one at a time and see if that has any beneficial effect.

While hard morning wood is probably desirable. for “cosmetic” reasons. It depends on your operating wood. If that is adequate why worry?


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Thanks Twat and Petit,

I’m thinking I’ll bag them altogether. I have a really strong libido to start with, and have never had an issue with erections. So, as the journey continues, I’ll adjust here. Do either of you think just jelqing with work length and girth? I’ve read that stretching can have a negative effect on EQ. So, Just jelqs for now?


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

I am not the person you want answering this, but if you are new, see what jelqing leads you. For some it does almost everything right out the gate. But it does condition you for the later exercises. Think of it like the bootcamp.


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

I moved your thread, A J.

Thanks, Marinera. Where too? Any comments about this yourself?


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

I don’t take any supplements, AJ, I think they are a waste of money in most cases, and sometimes they can be dangerous. I don’t like to think that my gains or performance are dipendending on any substances, also.

Some supplements can actually lead to a greater increase in estrogen than the increase in testosterone. The results one gets depends on the individual. Some supplements like Maca work on the adrenal glands which produce both testosterone and estrogen. The testes also produce both. Influencing the pituitary gland to signal release of LH and FSH just tells the adrenals and testes “make more sex hormones”, but the proportion of what is actually created depends on other factors. That’s why prohormones that specifically target Testosterone are now illegal. That’s also why men on Testosterone Replacement Theraphy often need to incorporate an aromatase inhibitor into the mix.

I have found from experience that it is easy to overshoot the mark and get to a place of making more estrogen and having that override any benefit of increased testosterone. This is why often Androgel only works for a short time.

If there are things I’ve mentioned that you are not familiar with, I suggest doing some research (search here or use an Internet search engine) before taking supplements.


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Originally Posted by BigFatLuvRocket
Some supplements can actually lead to a greater increase in estrogen than the increase in testosterone. The results one gets depends on the individual. Some supplements like Maca work on the adrenal glands which produce both testosterone and estrogen. The testes also produce both. Influencing the pituitary gland to signal release of LH and FSH just tells the adrenals and testes “make more sex hormones”, but the proportion of what is actually created depends on other factors. That’s why prohormones that specifically target Testosterone are now illegal. That’s also why men on Testosterone Replacement Theraphy often need to incorporate an aromatase inhibitor into the mix.

I have found from experience that it is easy to overshoot the mark and get to a place of making more estrogen and having that override any benefit of increased testosterone. This is why often Androgel only works for a short time.

If there are things I’ve mentioned that you are not familiar with, I suggest doing some research (search here or use an Internet search engine) before taking supplements.

Thanks, I needed some sort of detailed understanding of why/why not. I think I’ll let nature do it’s thing until I really need to supplement.


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

You want an EQ supplement?

Try eating some cherry tomatoes, or any type of tomato that is a real deep red color inside.

About an hour or so after eating some I have the most ridiculous erections. I always make a salad full of them when the girl and I are expecting some alone time after dinner.

Originally Posted by Rustyman
You want an EQ supplement?

Try eating some cherry tomatoes, or any type of tomato that is a real deep red color inside.

About an hour or so after eating some I have the most ridiculous erections. I always make a salad full of them when the girl and I are expecting some alone time after dinner.

Shoot, I’ll try it. Natural is good.


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

Originally Posted by Acid Jazz
Shoot, I’ll try it. Natural is good.

Let me know how it goes.

Just wondering if it only affects some people.


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Rustyman , that’s very interesting. I’ve always loved tomatoes and eat as much as I can. Do you know what is active in tomatoes that have the increased libido effect?

Acid, maybe you should stop all supplements for a good week or two and drink lots of water to detox your system from it. Sometimes your body can build a resistance and that’s why some supplements need to be “cycled” meaning 4-6 weeks on, 4-6 weeks off. Not sure if what you’re taking needs to be cycled but try it and see if the effectiveness of your supplements come back.

Originally Posted by pokermon919
Rustyman , that’s very interesting. I’ve always loved tomatoes and eat as much as I can. Do you know what is active in tomatoes that have the increased libido effect?

Acid, maybe you should stop all supplements for a good week or two and drink lots of water to detox your system from it. Sometimes your body can build a resistance and that’s why some supplements need to be “cycled” meaning 4-6 weeks on, 4-6 weeks off. Not sure if what you’re taking needs to be cycled but try it and see if the effectiveness of your supplements come back.

Yeah,

I will. I’m not sure I “needed” them in the first place. Trust me, you guys will know one way or another. Thanks for the comments.


Paraphrased: It is not the critic who counts: The credit belongs to the man in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, who, at the best, knows the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.

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