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Best substitute for viagracialis

Best substitute for viagracialis

I just found out a prescription is needed for generic viagra(unless the pharmacy tech just lied to me) and was looking at the shelf of all the basic enhancers. Any experience is appreciated, it is likely I will soon be able to get ahold of either Viagra or cialis. But until then, if anyone knows the next best thing it would be very helpful.

Also, I can’t post in the supplements section. So I apologize that this may the wrong place for this post.

https://www.iron-dragon.com sells a liquid tadalafil that is pretty good. Just click on the link for ordering details.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

I haven’t tried the above mentioned product, but I have tried a lot of others, and Dr. Seltzer’s Hardon Helper is by far the best one I have found. I get no negative side effects from it, and it last for days.

The cheapest place I have found to get it is Ebay, but amazon also sells it.


July 2018: BPEL=6.5" MSEG=4.75" EQ=4

Dec 2018: BPEL=7.5" MSEG=5.5" EQ=6-8

My journey

Originally Posted by gprent
https://www.iron-dragon.com sells a liquid tadalafil that is pretty good. Just click on the link for ordering details.

Out of curiosity, have you ordered from this site? I thought I would give it a try, but it wouldn’t even take any payment information.


July 2018: BPEL=6.5" MSEG=4.75" EQ=4

Dec 2018: BPEL=7.5" MSEG=5.5" EQ=6-8

My journey

Yes, I have ordered from them many times. I just went to the site and did a test ordering process and got to where you enter your bank account and routing number and stopped there. Seemed to be working fine. Doesn’t look like they accept credit cards anymore though.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Hmmm, interesting, thanks for the response. They told me to mail them a check. But there was another billing option, perhaps that was for online payment?

BTW, do you know about dosing for this? I bought one 30mL vial I believe.


July 2018: BPEL=6.5" MSEG=4.75" EQ=4

Dec 2018: BPEL=7.5" MSEG=5.5" EQ=6-8

My journey

Originally Posted by Sunny008
Hmmm, interesting, thanks for the response. They told me to mail them a check. But there was another billing option, perhaps that was for online payment?

BTW, do you know about dosing for this? I bought one 30mL vial I believe.

The concentration of the liquid is 30mg’s tadalafil per ml. From testing I know that 6 pumps will equal 1ml or 30mg’s of tadalafil. So if you want a 10mg dose, it is 2 pumps (after the pump is primed) directly into your mouth and of course for a 20mg dose it is 4 pumps or 4 squirts into your mouth.

You have to shake the bottle vigorously and for a long time before each use to fully mix the tadalafil that has settled to the bottom of the bottle.


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

All the liquid guys are having issues taking credit cards. Iron dragon has two options, a check/money order or putting in your checking info. Purchase Peptides for whatever is reason lately never lets my credit card through even though I cleared them to charge it. I can’t even get an email to go through to them. So my last purchase was grindstone labs. With them you place an order and within 24 hours they call you for credit card info. It was like ordering a pizza with a 24 hour delay. I can’t say yet if their stuff is good because I’ve tried while sick. After this bronchitis passes I’ll try it again.

Thanks for the responses guys, very useful and helpful info. I am curious to try this.


July 2018: BPEL=6.5" MSEG=4.75" EQ=4

Dec 2018: BPEL=7.5" MSEG=5.5" EQ=6-8

My journey

Let me know how your order from grindstone works out, as I had ordered from them but didn’t have a good experience. I had emailed with one question before the order (shipping options), and got no reply. I sent it again, no reply, but regardless I still placed an order for 1oz of tadafinal, and asked another question (what the liquid suspension was composed of - water, alcohol, or glycerin base), but no answer. Then I got my order with the powder at the bottom, not dissolved at all (Which is fine just shake for 15 seconds). I tried 1 dropper day one, and noticed nothing (and I’m familiar with what to expect). The next evening I doubled to two droppers, and nothing, and at this point I emailed them again just asking ‘did I get the right item from you?’, but no response. The next time I tried 5 droppers, and finally one evening, half the bottle, and only then do I ‘think’ I had its effects, but by then the bottle was 25% empty. I sent one final email, nothing rude or negative, just that I felt disappointed I never got emails from them, and that I was not even sure I got the right item, and left it at that.

So I look forward to hear how it worked for you from them, as I did not have a positive experience I was hoping for, considering they are priced well. I always have told myself, if a company doesn’t answer a simple question email, then do not order from them, but this was the one time I tricked myself.

Imemine,

That sucks and it seems to happen too often with liquids. It’s why I was so high on evopharmcy who is no longer around. They had real generics from the EU and they worked. It wasn’t cheap though.

So far I feel like I was sent viagra and not cialis I’m having all sides of viagra, headache, flushed face and heart racing to the point of panic attack. I will say it works albeit with the unwanted sides.

Originally Posted by gprent

Yes, I have ordered from them many times. I just went to the site and did a test ordering process and got to where you enter your bank account and routing number and stopped there. Seemed to be working fine. Doesn’t look like they accept credit cards anymore though.

does the product increase size permanently or is it just for erections?

Always great to purchase online from a site that actually delivers what you order. I was more than happy with the service from and the pills worked as expected. For genuine generic medication, this is the place to be. I’ll stick with what I know for the future.


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