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Grow breasts with MMS?

This again is another mind boggling claim. Jim Humble does not make it, but he certainly takes credit for it. Chapter 23 of his book is titled “The MMS Adventures of a Grade School Teacher in Mexico.” and Jim’s own introduction reads

“You may have wondered just what might really be done with the MMS, really! Well, read this:”

He himself is obviously endorsing this story as legitimate. I want to make it perfectly clear, you can’t argue “but it’s just a story someone wrote”, because so are all the other testimonials. If Jim Humble takes the credit for the story then he must accept the bad with the good. He can’t just take the credit and ignore the criticism.

Moving right along. I am quoting directly from his own book:

The next day I called to find out how they were doing. (After taking MMS) They pointed out that the daughter, Patty Souaza, had not had her period for six months, plus she had not yet developed breasts. She had a large chest, but no breasts had shown. Yet, that morning breasts about the size of a small lime had begun to develop. At that time I suggested the daughter take another dose on Thursday which was 4 days later. When I called on Thursday she mentioned that her large chest had formed into full size breasts and she now had her period for the first time in six months.

I’ve heard some tall tales but by this story I am just dumbfounded. I hope you are too.

http://sites.google.com/site/mmsdeb…reasts-with-mms

I’m calling bullshit on MMS. I’ve been reading now for almost 2 hours and can’t find anything positively conclusive.

May as well drink pool water.

Sorry sparkyx but I think you’ve been duped.


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Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
So long story cut short: This is a miracle cure for ALL illnesses, cancers and ailments that a human can suffer from?

I’m very open minded but even this sounds too good to be true.


Many illnesses are due to nutritional deficiencies, malabsorption syndromes, genetics etc. Lets just say that this is POTENTIALLY helpful for pathogen related illnesses. Chances are not all pathogen related illnesses, but even if its just great for a couple, thats a couple in the right direction.

Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
I’m calling bullshit on MMS. I’ve been reading now for almost 2 hours and can’t find anything positively conclusive.

May as well drink pool water.

Sorry sparkyx but I think you’ve been duped.


The story may have some basis of truth as far as the actual events. Does that mean it was causative, maybe. Should we dismiss everything he says because the report of a highly unusual event? No, that is as ridiculous as accepting everything as accurate. I assume that much of what he says is accurate, but my suspicion is that its a selective reporting due to the nature of how people work with him.

I think that many who get poor results (distant patients) just drop away and don’t continue. Those that get great results report back with enthusiasm. Its a non scientific and skewed sample. EVEN given that, there are enough health care professionals that he has worked with, with accurate reporting that are very excited about the results, especially with Malaria, and possibly AIDS. I have read a few Lyme sufferers that claim it has worked better than any other treatment they have tried, but many who get too nauseous to continue usage.

I don’t base my interest in MMS solely based on his reporting, if you search you will find many people that have amazing results. You will probably find an equal amount of people with disappointing results. If it was just him (Humble) making claims, I would have dismissed it in the first 5 minutes of my exposure to it.

What I recommend is those who are without any other recourse to at least investigate this. Once again, I am not vouching for the effectiveness of this treatment, but I do think its worth looking into for those that have a reason to be interested. I am personally experimenting with it, and have recommended some other Alternative Health care professionals that I know to try it on their own problems. We, as a group will begin to experiment on ourselves, and if we find validity in it, we may begin to broach the subject with the appropriate friends, family and eventually patients. I think that is a reasonable and rational approach.

I looked into MMS info and the FDA is warning us that this solution is basically bleach. This is the article that I read:
If there is something that can cure a disease for free, I wouldn’t think the FDA would endorse it anyhow.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsr…s/ucm220747.htm

- News & EventsHome> News & Events> Newsroom> Press AnnouncementsSection Contents MenuNewsroom Press Announcements 200920082007200620052004-
FDA NEWS RELEASE
For Immediate Release: July 30, 2010
Media Inquiries: Elaine Gansz Bobo, 301-796-7567, elaine.bobo@fda.hhs.gov
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA

FDA Warns Consumers of Serious Harm from Drinking Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Product contains industrial strength bleach

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is warning consumers not to take Miracle Mineral Solution, an oral liquid also known as “Miracle Mineral Supplement” or “MMS.” The product, when used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health.

The FDA has received several reports of health injuries from consumers using this product, including severe nausea, vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure from dehydration.

Consumers who have MMS should stop using it immediately and throw it away.

MMS is distributed on Internet sites and online auctions by multiple independent distributors. Although the products share the MMS name, the look of the labeling may vary.

The product instructs consumers to mix the 28 percent sodium chlorite solution with an acid such as citrus juice. This mixture produces chlorine dioxide, a potent bleach used for stripping textiles and industrial water treatment. High oral doses of this bleach, such as those recommended in the labeling, can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and symptoms of severe dehydration.

MMS claims to treat multiple unrelated diseases, including HIV, hepatitis, the H1N1 flu virus, common colds, acne, cancer, and other conditions. The FDA is not aware of any research that MMS is effective in treating any of these conditions. MMS also poses a significant health risk to consumers who may choose to use this product for self-treatment instead of seeking FDA-approved treatments for these conditions.

The FDA continues to investigate and may pursue civil or criminal enforcement actions as appropriate to protect the public from this potentially dangerous product.

The FDA advises consumers who have experienced any negative side effects from MMS to consult a health care professional as soon as possible and to discard the product. Consumers and health care professionals should report adverse events to the FDA’s MedWatch program at 800-FDA-1088 or online at www.fda.gov/medwatch/report.htm.


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Perception is reality.

One of the uses that I think is very exciting a relatively safe is using for gum problems. You make an activated solution and keep it in a glass jar with a lid. You brush your teeth with it, then spit and rinse. This is a very conservative application, yet many have reported great results with it. The activated solution with a lid should be good for about 3 days. Walter Last recommends neutralizing the acid with some baking soda, to prevent damage to the enamel.

I myself have used this, but didn’t really have much gum problems. It did appear like my gums became firmer, but that might just be my imagination. I would love to hear someone with really bad gums and possibly loose teeth to give it a try for a few weeks and report back.

There is a technique from Aryuvadic Medicine called “oil pulling” where you use sesame oil to clear gum problems, and potentially other health problems. The concept is you swish about an ounce of it in your mouth for about 10 minutes every day. What this SEEMS to do is loosen and dissolve bacteria that settles deep into the gums. People report whiter teeth and fresher breath, but many report some chronic health problems improve also. The scientific basis for this is that chronic low level bacterial infections in the mouth leach poisons into the blood and can cause other problems, and this dislodges it and gets it out of the mouth.

If this has some basis, then I would expect brushing with MMS should definitely improve gum disease, and possibly have other health benefits.

This is the type of experimentation I am looking into, but I personally have limited diseases in my own body, so I am curious among family and friends, when problems crop up, to try appropriate treatment and access the responses. I just received my order of bulk dry Sodium Chlorite (10 lbs), so I should have enough raw material to keep me and all my friends in enough MMS to experiment for the next 20 years! I figure just in case the FDA bans this stuff, I’ll have enough to take care of a small community!

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Originally Posted by Clubber
I looked into MMS info and the FDA is warning us that this solution is basically bleach. This is the article that I read:
If there is something that can cure a disease for free, I wouldn’t think the FDA would endorse it anyhow.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsr…s/ucm220747.htm

- News & EventsHome> News & Events> Newsroom> Press AnnouncementsSection Contents MenuNewsroom Press Announcements 200920082007200620052004-
FDA NEWS RELEASE
For Immediate Release: July 30, 2010
Media Inquiries: Elaine Gansz Bobo, 301-796-7567, elaine.bobo@fda.hhs.gov
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA

FDA Warns Consumers of Serious Harm from Drinking Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS)
Product contains industrial strength bleach

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is warning consumers not to take Miracle Mineral Solution, an oral liquid also known as “Miracle Mineral Supplement” or “MMS.” The product, when used as directed, produces an industrial bleach that can cause serious harm to health.

The FDA has received several reports of health injuries from consumers using this product, including severe nausea, vomiting, and life-threatening low blood pressure from dehydration.

Consumers who have MMS should stop using it immediately and throw it away.

MMS is distributed on Internet sites and online auctions by multiple independent distributors. Although the products share the MMS name, the look of the labeling may vary.

The product instructs consumers to mix the 28 percent sodium chlorite solution with an acid such as citrus juice. This mixture produces chlorine dioxide, a potent bleach used for stripping textiles and industrial water treatment. High oral doses of this bleach, such as those recommended in the labeling, can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and symptoms of severe dehydration.

MMS claims to treat multiple unrelated diseases, including HIV, hepatitis, the H1N1 flu virus, common colds, acne, cancer, and other conditions. The FDA is not aware of any research that MMS is effective in treating any of these conditions. MMS also poses a significant health risk to consumers who may choose to use this product for self-treatment instead of seeking FDA-approved treatments for these conditions.

The FDA continues to investigate and may pursue civil or criminal enforcement actions as appropriate to protect the public from this potentially dangerous product.

The FDA advises consumers who have experienced any negative side effects from MMS to consult a health care professional as soon as possible and to discard the product. Consumers and health care professionals should report adverse events to the FDA’s MedWatch program at 800-FDA-1088 or online at www.fda.gov/medwatch/report.htm.

God, we all know how safe all the FDA approved drugs are! Thank goodness they are watching out for our welfare.

Its funny, I’ve been paying attention to all the drug advertising on TV lately, and most of them warn the potential of fatal reactions, but fortunately these have all been approved by the FDA, so when you die from it, you can do so safely! There have been no deaths from MMS, or I’m sure the FDA would have made sure to report it.

Anyway, I’ve been repeating myself over and over on this thread, and its getting old.

I’ve stated what I wished to say on this subject, I have no profit motive here…just wishing to give a heads up. You guys make up your own minds. PM me if you have any specific questions, but really I don’t have any answers you can’t find for yourselves.

I am really excited about this stuff. Will try it on some Canadians and report back.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
One of the uses that I think is very exciting a relatively safe is using for gum problems. You make an activated solution and keep it in a glass jar with a lid. You brush your teeth with it, then spit and rinse. This is a very conservative application, yet many have reported great results with it. The activated solution with a lid should be good for about 3 days. Walter Last recommends neutralizing the acid with some baking soda, to prevent damage to the enamel.

I think that many who get poor results (distant patients) just drop away and don’t continue. Those that get great results report back with enthusiasm. Its a non scientific and skewed sample. EVEN given that, there are enough health care professionals that he has worked with, with accurate reporting that are very excited about the results, especially with Malaria, and possibly AIDS. I have read a few Lyme sufferers that claim it has worked better than any other treatment they have tried, but many who get too nauseous to continue usage.


Of all the info that I read this is true in a topical notion with regards to oral hygiene. It was found to be good for teeth and gums or any external problems but internally it’s a different story.

It destroys red blood cells. That’s why it’s “effective” against pathogens. They [pathogens] (like Malaria) take over red blood cells and use them to survive and mutiply. Destroy the red blood cell and it no longer has a home until it latches on to another red blood cell that hasn’t been destroyed.

This solution is an oxidant, the opposite to antioxidant. An oxidant is believed to cause cancer and other problems by creating free radicals in cells.

The instructions say to not dilute the solution with anything containing vitamin C. Only problem is that in the instructions it also points out to use Apple Juice instead of orange juice. Well apple juice still contains vitamin C.

When activating the MMS with an acidic solution it recommends using citric acid or vinegar. Like above, citric acid contains vitamin C.

Vitamin C is a strong antioxidant and it nullifies the oxidant effect of MMS.

It is also claimed to be useful against anaerobic bacteria including Tuberculosis and is smart enough to distinguish between infected cells and healthy cells. Tuberculosis is a highly aerobic bacteria.

One thing that seems to be common with the “succesful” cases is most of them are done in a highly superstitious community that still believe in witch doctor cures (Africa) and with people who believe Homeopathy works.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
I don’t base my interest in MMS solely based on his reporting, if you search you will find many people that have amazing results. You will probably find an equal amount of people with disappointing results. If it was just him (Humble) making claims, I would have dismissed it in the first 5 minutes of my exposure to it.


I noticed that, I also did a search on Homeopathy and found a very similair, if not identical pattern. I also found a lot of trolls and information on how to become an agent peddling Jim Humble’s wares and receive a 50% share of what is sold. This is MLM.

He supposedly cured 100,000 people in Africa but then says he can’t afford to pay for clinical studies. Well those 100,000 people are enough for a clinical study and he should submit his reports for peer review, but he doesn’t. Instead he goes on about big pharma conspiracy theories and how big pharma can’t put a patent on it and make a profit out of it. Which is outright bullshit! See http://www.cancercure.co.za/faq.htm for what I mean. Anyone up for some FAITH Drops? :rolleyes: All you need is FAITH.

I admit when I first started reading this thread I was excited about this but the further I got and the more I read I realised this is too good to be true. As the saying goes If it's too good to be true then it is.

Originally Posted by sparkyx
There have been no deaths from MMS, or I’m sure the FDA would have made sure to report it.


Wrong!

http://www.smh.com.au/national/deat…00108-lyxv.html

You know how hard it was to find that link? All the affiliate websites I had to get through to get to it.

Originally Posted by iamaru
I am really excited about this stuff. Will try it on some Canadians and report back.


It’s already banned in Canada.

And we all know Canadian’s are smarter than US citizens. :)

Get it while it lasts.

FDA Launches a Warning Against Fake Drug MMS

http://topnews.co.uk/210338-fda-lau…t-fake-drug-mms
After detecting a series of life threatening side effects of the drug, the U. S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced a public alert, warning people that Miracle Mineral Solution is not just a swindle, but it is also an almost-lethal swindle.

Miracle Mineral Solution, a drug marketed on the Internet, is a liquid used as a treatment for cancer, HIV/AIDS, herpes, mad-cow, hepatitis, tuberculosis, even common cold and acne, in addition to a wide variety of other diseases. The claimed efficacy of the product results from the simpler ingredients and the less use of science, which, according to the promoting websites, enhances the drugs `organicity’.

However, FDA detected that this MMS causes life threatening side effects, including dehydration and low blood pressure. It also causes nausea and vomiting with ranging degrees. The FDA found out that these side-effects result from the products turning from a citrus juice mixed with some water, into potent bleach, used for industrial products.

The FDA announced the warning after a series of complaints from customers who were subjected to this product. After examinations, the complaints proved true. The next step, U. S. regulators stated, would be tracing the Internet sites and the online auctions that publicise such products or, by any means, facilitate its purchase in order to ensure the public safety. This move would be followed by civil law suits being charged against the product's manufacturers, as well as the promoters.


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Originally Posted by huff

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I'm a big fan of 50 Cent, or as we call him in Zimbabwe, four hundred million dollars.

You pulled me back from walking from this thread. So here you go, there is no way in hell one drop would kill anyone, the recommended protocol is to start with one drop.

Is it possible that more killed her, yes. This is the first death I have heard from it, and I have to assume its true. So lets just assume you can die from this stuff. Proceed at your own risk, do your own research on it, and make up your own mind.

Now I’m out.

Originally Posted by huff

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Leave Poppa Smurf the fuck alone. This is not a warning, it is a promise.


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Originally Posted by iamaru
I am really excited about this stuff. Will try it on some Canadians and report back.

Bro why you hatin’ on us fo’.


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Originally Posted by R Dopa
After researching the chemical used in this particular product, it seems incredibly dangerous and is a potent oxidant. If you search the MEDLINE database, all references are to its use as a bleach or disinfectant. I would advise staying away from taking anything that toxic.


Did you check out the MEDLINE articles on PE as well?

PE is about as alternative therapy as it gets.


regards, mgus

Taped onto the dashboard of a car at a junkyard, I once found the following: "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement." The car was crashed.

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Originally Posted by Tossed Salad
FDA Launches a Warning Against Fake Drug MMS
However, FDA detected that this MMS causes life threatening side effects, including dehydration and low blood pressure. It also causes nausea and vomiting with ranging degrees. The FDA found out that these side-effects result from the products turning from a citrus juice mixed with some water, into potent bleach, used for industrial products.


Nausea, vomiting and to a certain extent low blood pressure are quite common side effects for a lot of medicines. When I started taking Seroxat/Paxil for my depression I was nauseous 24/7 for a week or two. Kind of the same getting off it too.

Heck, alcohol causes all of those side effects too.


regards, mgus

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Primary goal: To have an EQ above average (i.e. streetsmart, compassionate about life and happy) Secondary goal: to make an anagram of my signature denoting how I feel about my gains

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