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Originally Posted by R Dopa
It’s publicised constantly, the lawsuits never stop in the public eye. Hell I’ve been in two class action lawsuits over medication side effects. Evidence-based medicine is still the way to go and until there’s double-blinded randomized controlled trials of a treatment for a disease, it should never be recommended over proven treatments, it breaks some of the most fundamental ethics of healing.

IF thousands have been cured of a deadly disease, by a “folk medicine” for which there has been no funding (millions of dollars) for FDA approval, (and there won’t be because there is no profit in the treatment), AND you or a loved one comes down with that disease, would you use it?

I have used many simple nutrients to fix “unfixable” illnesses, for which no major studies will ever be funded by Pharmaceutical Companies, because there is no profit in it. I for one haven’t and won’t wait for the FDA to approve the use of many natural remedies that are safe and effective…because it may never come.

Personally as a Chiropractor I have been treating and correcting problems that the Medical Community has said didn’t exist with a treatment that the Medical Community said doesn’t work. If I had waited for the OK from standard medical practice, I would still be waiting to treat my first patient.

We each have to make our own choices, and I respect your right to set your own standards.

Originally Posted by Thatcat
I have a friend with HepC, I’ll talk to him about trying this. If he does decide to try it I will ask him for his medical records that he gets, and with his permission will write up a conclusion.

This sounds promising, but I have my doubts.


Have him read the Walter Last post that I put here. Google him and have him read the stuff that pertains to him. I think he has a very sensible understanding of MMS. He is a retired Biochemist.

Hundreds of herbal supplements have been tested and found to work, thousands more not. They don’t find their way into peoples hands because it’s not profitable for companies to use natural products, the research is still done. There’s no “big pharma” conspiracy covering it up, it’s just that a) it’s not profitable for them to sell the stuff and b) if people find out how many herbal treatments are placebos the nutritional supplement companies will stop being able to profiteer off people.

After researching the chemical used in this particular product, it seems incredibly dangerous and is a potent oxidant. If you search the MEDLINE database, all references are to its use as a bleach or disinfectant. I would advise staying away from taking anything that toxic.


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Originally Posted by R Dopa
Hundreds of herbal supplements have been tested and found to work, thousands more not. They don’t find their way into peoples hands because it’s not profitable for companies to use natural products, the research is still done. There’s no “big pharma” conspiracy covering it up, it’s just that a) it’s not profitable for them to sell the stuff and b) if people find out how many herbal treatments are placebos the nutritional supplement companies will stop being able to profiteer off people.

After researching the chemical used in this particular product, it seems incredibly dangerous and is a potent oxidant. If you search the MEDLINE database, all references are to its use as a bleach or disinfectant. I would advise staying away from taking anything that toxic.


I admire your scepticism, but denying before fully researching and understanding is as bad as blind belief. I’m not going to suggest this to anyone before I consult my doctors, and do a lot of research.

This does sound like a dodgy sell on a false promise, but you can’t know for certain unless you take the time to learn.

Also, homeopathy is a joke, but my grand mothers sister makes a home remedy that can remove any scar, regardless of how old or big it is. You can’t buy it in any shop, it is not approved by any significant medical study, but it does incredible wonders to skin, and to top that off it is entirely made from herbs you can grow in any garden.

She was a highly respected dermatologist, so she knows a thing or two about skin problems. She tried to get a clinical study done, but had the good business sense to not give them the formula. She’s made a good deal of money over the years, and her product works the same for everyone. The thing rendered a .5” bump scar from a good shot wound to a smooth perfect peace of skin.


Wishing and hoping for the best - yup your doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by R Dopa
Hundreds of herbal supplements have been tested and found to work, thousands more not. They don’t find their way into peoples hands because it’s not profitable for companies to use natural products, the research is still done. There’s no “big pharma” conspiracy covering it up, it’s just that a) it’s not profitable for them to sell the stuff and b) if people find out how many herbal treatments are placebos the nutritional supplement companies will stop being able to profiteer off people.

After researching the chemical used in this particular product, it seems incredibly dangerous and is a potent oxidant. If you search the MEDLINE database, all references are to its use as a bleach or disinfectant. I would advise staying away from taking anything that toxic.

Its already approved by (FDA?) for water treatment and food preservative. The difference is concentration. If it was “incredibly dangerous” there would be thousands of deaths because it has been used by over 100,000 people if not more.

Not a single death has been noted. Can it make you puke and nauseous, yes… thats common. Is it a substance to be approached with caution, yes. Is it deadly, no its already used by many municipalities for their water purification because its safer than chlorine, because it doesn’t oxidize human tissues or friendly flora. PLUS it doesn’t have dangerous or carcinogenic end products like chlorine. Its end products are table salt (NaCl), oxygen and water.

The protocol is to start with one drop and work up. The current protocol is to use 1-3 drops per hour, which has greatly reduce nausea as a side effect. I myself have used 15 drops at one time. This is close to the max dose recommended. Did I die, I don’t think so. Did I get nauseous? I did, not to the extent of vomiting, but I certainly didn’t want to take a 15 drop dose again. I think the new protocol of max 3 drops, but done hourly for the period of recommended treatment is very sensible. Walter Last (biochemist) recommends increased antioxidants before and after treatment further eliminates the possible drawbacks of this treatment. With the current protocols and the antioxidant recommendation, I think it is well within a safe perimeter, but that is my opinion. The other negative effect is the Heximer reaction. This occurs when you kill off a ton of pathogens at once, and can make you feel sick as hell.

Once again, this is not some treatment to make your dick bigger, its for people with diseases that are unresponsive to standard medical treatment. For those that are desperately sick or chronically sick with diseases that traditional meds don’t work or work poorly, this is an alternative that is worth EXPLORING. I am not vouching for the effectiveness of this treatment, I am saying its worth looking into and deciding for yourself.


Last edited by sparkyx : 08-04-2010 at .

Originally Posted by Thatcat

Also, homeopathy is a joke, but my grand mothers sister makes a home remedy that can remove any scar, regardless of how old or big it is. You can’t buy it in any shop, it is not approved by any significant medical study, but it does incredible wonders to skin, and to top that off it is entirely made from herbs you can grow in any garden.

She was a highly respected dermatologist, so she knows a thing or two about skin problems. She tried to get a clinical study done, but had the good business sense to not give them the formula. She’s made a good deal of money over the years, and her product works the same for everyone. The thing rendered a .5” bump scar from a good shot wound to a smooth perfect peace of skin.

How do we get some?

Quasi-on topic

Here is a page I enjoy reading every so often. To stay tiopicalal you want the heading of health.
http://www.rexresearch.com/03index.htm


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

Thanks for the link, sparkyx.

I`ll take it that it is relevant for less serious issues as well?

I`ve been struggling with low testosterone symptoms (low eq and libido) for a long while now, without succeeding to improve.

It is reputed to be excellent at killing or oxidizing bacteria (bad), virus, parasites and heavy metals.

There have been illnesses that you wouldn’t think would improve from it, improve from it.

I started taking it to just experiment on myself before I could recommend it for friends, family or patients. I figure its never bad to get rid of any of the above listed stuff.

As far as low testosterone, I would certainly recommend you start with something like magnesium (orotate), zinc ( orotate or picolinate) and B6. The supplement called ZMA is just those nutrients and has been demonstrated by studies to raise testosterone up to normal to high normal level.

If you want to experiment with MMS, then make sure you read it very thoroughly and read the Walter Last info on it. As R Dopa mentions, its not a completely harmless substance, but I believe armed with understanding of how to use it properly it can be done safely (again IMO).

What does it do to Candida?


“You see, I don’t want to do good things, I want to do great things.” ~Alexander Joseph Luthor

I know Lewd Ferrigno personally.

What makes it ideal is it allegedly kills only bad bacteria and pathogens and spares good bacteria. It is supposed to be very effective against Candida, as a matter of fact one has to go slow because of the Heximer reaction.

What is supposedly so good about this stuff is that it is non reactive with normal tissue, which allows the blood to circulate it deeper into tissues. Other therapies like Ozone or perioxide are very reactive with all tissues, so its hard to get it very far into the body. This is supposedly very weak against normal tissue, but highly reactive to pathogens, ideal if that is how it works.

For most systemic illnesses, I would suggest looking at Walter Lasts application of MMS. He recommends first cleaning out the colon, then starting with Lugols first, THEN moving into the MMS therapy. It makes a lot of sense on many levels. For chronic illnesses, the body is already struggling with toxic overload (in many cases). If you start killing off tons of pathogens, it can put a huge stress on your body. His approach is a more gradual, giving the body time to unload some of the heavy toxins first before using the heavy guns of MMS.

http://www.health-science-spirit.com/

This is his home page, and at the bottom are many good articles, including MMS1 (which is what I am discussing) and MMS2, not discussed here.

I recommend reading the article on Cleansing, and certainly I like what he says about MMS and how to best use it. He is a retired Biochemist and is a great source for Wholistic concepts.

Guys like Jim Humble are pioneers (with great courage I might add), who lead the way until hopefully real professionals step in and take over. Walter Last, in my opinion is one of those that are taking it in a very good direction.

So long story cut short: This is a miracle cure for ALL illnesses, cancers and ailments that a human can suffer from?

I’m very open minded but even this sounds too good to be true.


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