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Anyone try xeadrine-efx?

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Pretty much worthless.

The real Xenadrine with ephedra was great.


:buttrock: The Peter Dick method :buttrock:

Then, BPEL:7.500"x5.500"

Now, BPEL:8.375"X6.750"

Yeah that’s what I thought is there anything out there that works without ephedra?


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Hot-rox is all I’ve seen to work without ephedra

Guys don’t you know ephedra is back on the market. Manufacturers have been making diet pills with ephedra again.. Also you are talking about xenadrine.. Well heres a tip , do a search for superdrine. This company got the rights from xenadrine to manufacture superdrine.. It has the exact same ingredients as xenadrine with epehdra . Yes it’s true.. Pm if you need more source with ephedra. Good luck with your search

Guys I picked up some stacker 3 because it was cheap and I just wanted something for a lift. So far it’s worked pretty well (2 days) it has helped with the appetite and my energy is up but I’m not nervous and my flaccid is fine. The last time I took stacker 2 it had the ephedra and I lost 20 pound but I was as jumpy as a cat on a hot tin roof and had a baby sized flaccid dick. I’m only doing it for two weeks and than I will slowly cut it off I just need to jump start my diet and so far between the gym and now the stacker I feel good in the direction I’m going.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)


Last edited by Dino9X7 : 01-11-2006 at .

Why do you guys want to mess with ephedra. Just mixing it with caffine is bad news and that is just the beginning:

Are there any risks or dangers with taking supplements containing ephedra?

Yes! There can be serious side effects, especially when ephedra is used in combination with caffeine. Over 800 injuries related to ephedra have been reported to the Food and Drug Administration, including more than 50 deaths. Adverse effects include: nervousness, dizziness, tremor, increased blood pressure or heart rate, headache, stomach upset, chest pain, heart attack, hepatitis, stroke, seizure, psychosis, and death.

Both Metabolife and Metab-O-lite have warning labels that advise consumers not to use the products during pregnancy or while nursing a baby. Consumers are also advised to consult with their physician before using the products if they have, or have a family history of: diabetes, high blood pressure, heart or thyroid disease, enlarged prostate, glaucoma, psychiatric illness, recurrent headaches, or depression. Also, consult with your physician if you are taking other prescription drugs, or intend on taking the product to reduce weight. A warning label on Metabolife 356 specifically states that the product is not for use by or sale to persons under 18.

Metabolife 356 advises not exceeding 8 tablets per day (96 milligrams ephedra alkaloids); Metabolite advises not exceeding 2 caplets in a 4 hour period and not exceeding 90 milligrams of ephedra alkaloids (8 caplets) in 24 hours. However, toxic effects of ephedra are not necessarily associated with massive doses.

The Food and Drug Administration has proposed limiting doses to no more than 24 milligrams ephedra per day (8 milligrams per dose), banning ephedra/caffeine combinations, and advises against using ephedra supplements for more than 7 days at a time; however, that proposal is in limbo, and the FDA has limited authority. Health Canada has restricted sales, and imports.

Bottom Line:

Save your money, your health, and possibly, your life! Avoid using products containing ephedra, and especially avoid combining ephedra with caffeine. Heed FDA warnings.

http://missourifamilies.org/feature…icles/nut10.htm

Yeah, and thousands of people DIE every year from gastrointestinal bleeding from taking Aspirin.

Ephedra is very, very safe. It has a 5000 year safety record.


:buttrock: The Peter Dick method :buttrock:

Then, BPEL:7.500"x5.500"

Now, BPEL:8.375"X6.750"

There is no doubt that the shit is dangerous. Unfortunately there is also no doubt, at least in my mind, that it works. I contribute probably 75% of the weight I’ve lost in the last few years was due to this drug. I abused this substance to get the bulk of the fat off. Now I use it very carefully to keep it off. I know that ephedra is dangerous, but I think weighing over 300 pounds for 20 years was more dangerous. 333 was my top. I now weigh 195. I have to run my ass off every day to keep the fat off, and the ECU stack helps me do that. I’ll take my chances.

Doc also tells me clamping is dangerous. :rolleyes: So YOU guy, don’t do it!!!


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Originally Posted by Big Girtha
I know that ephedra is dangerous

Please provide some scientific data to back that up.
Ephedra has an incredible safety record. I think you read to many news papers,
and not enough scientific journals. :)


:buttrock: The Peter Dick method :buttrock:

Then, BPEL:7.500"x5.500"

Now, BPEL:8.375"X6.750"

I think that they mean Ephedra is dangerous when abused or used by someone with a heart problem known or unknown to them. It’s also extremely dangerous to my flaccid size.


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

I took my ephedra to my doc, who by the way hates when I take anything, and she did not flip out. I was surprised. I told her the benefits I feel and she said “well I just want you to know that since you starting taking the ephedra, you now have high blood pressure and your heart rate has increased almost 20 points, so you decide”

So I stopped taking it and I have gained 8 lbs in 4 weeks WITH still working out. I am now cutting back on calories and going to start biking to the gym instead of driving. Itll be 5 miles each way for me on the bike but I have to do something. I have a pic on this forum of me in a Thunders t shirt which was a size medium and I looked great about two years ago. I have two more Thunders t shirts from tps and am now in the XL size and look like a bag of shit.

I may take the ephedra anyway, at least Ill look good in the casket.

I am getting a ton of solicitation emails about Hoodia for weight loss, anyone know anything.

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You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

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It’s very strange how you have a f-ing weight problem you go to the gym and you eat well. I thought for sure when you went on the T replacement you were going to get back into shape very easy


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

That hoodia sounds pretty good


I haven't failed, I've found 10,000 ways that don't work. Thomas Edison (1847-1931)

Originally Posted by Dino9X7
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It’s very strange how you have a f-ing weight problem you go to the gym and you eat well. I thought for sure when you went on the T replacement you were going to get back into shape very easy

Well part of my weight issue is that I drink too often. I enjoy a couple of glasses of wine at nite when I get home. I was in prime shape not too long ago when I didn’t drink alcohol anytime Monday thru Friday and only drank on the weekends. And during the holidays I missed a fair amount of mornings at the gym because of laziness, ate and drink way too much and being home with my kids because they were off from school.

I am now back dieting, working out daily and cutting back on my alcohol consumption. Hopefully I will see results fairly quickly. I need to see results to continue to be motivated.

And as far as the testosterone supplements are concerned. The three guys I know on TRT have all gained weight or at least not lost a thing. For instance, if I apply the gel to my abdomen I get hunger cravings like crazy, but if I apply to my arms and shoulders no hunger cravings. I dont know about the other guys I have only talked about their overall weight gain or loss.

I know what I have to do to get back into shape I just have to have the motivation to do it. It really helps when the supplements work though. And I have tried them all, HotRocks, Metabolite, Metabolife, EFX, Thermogain, and some hot name from GNC that was supposed to work great for EVERYONE ($240) you name it and the only one that has worked for me is products that contain ephedra.

So I have been hesitant on ordering Hoodia products without live feedback from people I know of.


You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

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