4AD (Aderm Guinea Pig 2 reporting in.

Received my bottle of 4-AD in the mail today. Have done one application of it.

I’ll be doing precise starting measurements later today. Last time I measured I was 8.25 x 5.25. (ELBP, natch.)

I’ll be trying to stick with the plan originally proposed by Jones for this experiment: twice a day applications, 3 weeks on, no wanking, no (other) PE.

My one concern at this stage is that keeping the (medicated) dick from touching the (never to be medicated) balls is a tricky. Two pairs of boxers with the under-layer buttoned and said cock hanging out doesn’t seem to cut it - it slowly slips back in as I walk around.

What about using a condom? Even one of the animal gut brands? Put the gook on the flacid dick and place the condom over. Even tape it on at the end. Remove condom when you have to piss. What do you think?

Okay how about a baby sock with the stuff on the inside. It is very snug depending on size bought. Cut a hole at the toe end and you can piss out of it no problem. Just like people who use baby socks to hang with.

De Sol,

Why would you even do this at 8.25” already. This is insanity! You are already huge. I do not understand why you would risk this.

Beowulf

I don’t get the importance of not letting it touch your scrotum. That doesn’t make any sense at all since it will get in your system regardless of what patch of skin it goes on. Bloodflow to the testes does not come from the skin….

This is true. The systematic carrier that 4aderm uses will not effect the testis. But, if you use a site specific carrier then your shit out of luck.

In fact, some Testosterone patches say you can put them on your scrotum.

Odd … it doesnt seem to have subscribed me to my own thread.

Somehow the idea of keeping my wang in a condom all day is unappealing. Maybe just so that the skin can breath. The baby sock doesn’t sound too bad.

Into day 2 of this experiment. Didn’t other people comment on a temporary enlargement of the balls at the start of the routine? No measurements to back this up, but they seem to be hanging a little heavier today.

As for the keeping the stuff off your balls, part of the theory of this 4AD stuff is that maybe it actually is site-local, and it can’t hurt to treat it as such in the meantime. If it actually does anything at all…

And Beowulf - thanks for the compliment, but as so many have said before, it doesn’t seem huge to me. Also, that’s a BPEL measurement. What a girl sees is an inch less than that, and I’d like to hit 8 NBP. Also, I’d like to see more girth. Also, on some level, I’ve always suspected that hormonal treatment was the way to go with PE. So I’m stepping up to the bat and taking the risk to be the guinea pig and see if this one is the real thing.

Hey, im 18 and all the hype and interest in this thing (also with quite a few hopefully true testimonials..) is really getting me considering to buy this stuff, also because im a keen bodybuilder and a quick bit of “cheating” hopefully won’t do any harm.. is it wise doing it at 18 since my bodys on testosterone overload anyway? also, I have a natural supp called “testokick” which contains trib and ZMA, after ive done a 3 week cycle of this stuff could this be used to get my bodys levels back to normal? Thanks alot

bb

Bizz, I highly recommend that you go to the message boards at bodybuilding dot com because you will find dozens of guys with experience with prohormones and literally thousands of messages on the topic that would be extremely helpful to you.

….and don’t take me as part of the hype.

I haven’t seen any results yet.

Of course, this is only day 3 for me, so I wouldn’t have seen any results regardless…

Is 4-AD a steroid? Probably a stupid question, I just dont know anything really about steroids or anything related, but I know bodybuilders inject testosterone.. is this stuff similar to that? Thanks alot

BB

It’s a prohormone. The idea is that while it’s not testosterone itself, your body converts it into testosterone and related hormones once it’s in your system. You can find a ton of info & misinfo on this in the “Gain .5 in/mo with no exercise” thread.

Checking in:
It’s been a bit over a week, not yet a week and a half.

I seem to have gained about 1/8” in length. I’ll hold back girth measurements till the end, because I’m lazy like that.

I consider 1/8” within the range of possible error for me, so this is far from conclusive. If I’ve hit a 1/4” by the end of things, that will start looking not only undeniable (to me) but also darn impressive. I’ve always been a slow gainer, so getting 1/8” in a week+ is already impressive for me, if it’s real.

deSol,

Are your erections harder? This has been an explanation for the added length from this. Could that explain the 1/8”?

I don’t think that’s what it is.
The 8.25” starting measurement was an ideal taken from repeated measurements - the best mark yet to be beaten. It took into account some high quality erections before.

Still, the +1/8” could come from other things other than real growth. Ruler slips during measurement off the bone, whatnot. I think it’s a good measurement, but I’m not excluding the possibility that it could be a mistake or a fluke. I could slip that much day to day. If I hit 1/4” growth on the stuff, that will be more than I would consider likely to be an error.