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Originally Posted by The Wizard
Cannot help you with any relevant links I was reading about it in a work related journal about 4 months ago.

Did that journal provide other things instead of flax seed?

I hardly ever trust articles when they promote a product indirectly or directly. It’s a clear sign the “studies” were fixed to fit the desired narrative of what the corporations (who hired the scientists to prove) wanted as tangible proof.

This has become standard practice in the scientific field. Scientists for hire. “You pay us to prove anything you want and we’ll find a way to make it work.”


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

And about clamping and blood flow:

If you are clamping and able to get the penis to swell up upon kegels, isn’t that proof that some level of circulation is present? And if the arousal level is able to increase the EQ while clamped, is that not a sign that some level of circulation is taking place as well?

If so, wouldn’t this reduce the effects of hypoxia and hypoperfusion in the penis and tissues it’s comprised of?

Obviously increased conditions would surely produce some levels of tissue damage that may be irreparable but precursor signs will be obvious. And fatigue will provide aid in preventing this.


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

Originally Posted by DomnariRailings
And about clamping and blood flow:

If you are clamping and able to get the penis to swell up upon kegels, isn’t that proof that some level of circulation is present? And if the arousal level is able to increase the EQ while clamped, is that not a sign that some level of circulation is taking place as well?

If so, wouldn’t this reduce the effects of hypoxia and hypoperfusion in the penis and tissues it’s comprised of?

Obviously increased conditions would surely produce some levels of tissue damage that may be irreparable but precursor signs will be obvious. And fatigue will provide aid in preventing this.

But the whole basis of clamping is that it amplifies the erection i.e the the flow going in is faster than the flow going out.. but with the clamp it takes it to the extreme and hopefully gets some sweet sweet gains as blood keeps going in and less is leaving the penis.
The reason you erection is effected when you kegel with the clamp is because you both increase the pressure of the blood entering, and that of the fluid in the tissue just below the clamp.. just feel it. I do not doubt you have these gains from clamping..due to over all size increase that it can offer or better erection quality, I would be interested to hear what happens.

However if you do the newbie routine (i.e jelq and stretch) or work on length first you will gain much quicker.. and clamping done the standard way works really well already just increase the amount of sets or maybe the time to 15min sets I have done 20.. but I think the penis needs it and you dont get any burst capillaries … Unless you are experimenting and doing it just for the science of it, I would would say you should just do the newbie stuff and enjoy those gains.

I’ve tried jelqs and even when careful using worthwhile stroke effort I am subject to the bursting of the blood vessels…which halts my clamping routine.

It’s because of this I only use very light jelqs in between hang sets…stretching it out to quickly regain proper blood flow. And it acts as stretch maintenance or a warm down stretchif you will.

I have noticed an increase in my bone pressed erection length (from 6.37 to 6.75”) & bone pressed flaccid stretched length (from 7.375 to 7.5”) since starting the clamping session. My non bone pressed erection length averages between 5.85 to 6.1”.

Do note: these measurements provided are when I am clamping.

Any thoughts about what these staggering increases might indicate? (They could just simply be the result of strong EQ, and clamping, but may also be indicative of size increases to come…hopefully).


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

Originally Posted by DomnariRailings
Did that journal provide other things instead of flax seed?

I hardly ever trust articles when they promote a product indirectly or directly. It’s a clear sign the “studies” were fixed to fit the desired narrative of what the corporations (who hired the scientists to prove) wanted as tangible proof.

This has become standard practice in the scientific field. Scientists for hire. “You pay us to prove anything you want and we’ll find a way to make it work.”


This journal was not promoting any part particular products as such.I was stating some lifestyle choices you can make to increase testosterone.Such as exercise and lift heavy weights instead of leading a sedentary lifestyle. Foods they mentioned and I can not remember all of them included.Flax seeds, Soy based products, licorice, and excessive beer consumption, and refined sugar.If I do manage to find this article I will get back to you with more detail.


A Small Leak Will Always Sink A Great Ship.

(Fat Pad 0.25")

Originally Posted by DomnariRailings
I’ve tried jelqs and even when careful using worthwhile stroke effort I am subject to the bursting of the blood vessels…which halts my clamping routine.

It’s because of this I only use very light jelqs in between hang sets…stretching it out to quickly regain proper blood flow. And it acts as stretch maintenance or a warm down stretchif you will.

I have noticed an increase in my bone pressed erection length (from 6.37 to 6.75”) & bone pressed flaccid stretched length (from 7.375 to 7.5”) since starting the clamping session. My non bone pressed erection length averages between 5.85 to 6.1”.

Do note: these measurements provided are when I am clamping.

Any thoughts about what these staggering increases might indicate? (They could just simply be the result of strong EQ, and clamping, but may also be indicative of size increases to come…hopefully).

You are also doing hanging?? that will definitely help. I thought you were just doing your very long clamps.. If you are doing many different exercises then it will be hard to know which is responsible for your gains… it will be more likely some combination that is responsible than any one exercise

I think post exercise measurements will be bigger but if you keep measuring at this time.. and it keeps getting bigger you are getting bigger.

I wish you the best of luck and look forward to your results in the future.. keep me posted :D

Originally Posted by Ireland8x6
You are also doing hanging?? that will definitely help. I thought you were just doing your very long clamps.. If you are doing many different exercises then it will be hard to know which is responsible for your gains… it will be more likely some combination that is responsible than any one exercise

I think post exercise measurements will be bigger but if you keep measuring at this time.. and it keeps getting bigger you are getting bigger.

I wish you the best of luck and look forward to your results in the future.. keep me posted :D

Thank you. I’ll frequently post any changes…Good or bad. And yeah I do measure several times during my routines to compare to previous days and even during the various stages if the routine.

One important factor I noticed that seems integral to positive results is the presence of constant very high EQ throughout the session. Done purely in a psychological manner…using the imagination to invoke arousal rather than visual imagery (porn).

Every time I can constantly or frequently maintain a high state of EQ psychologically, the results have always been the best…during and after the session and seems to positively affects the healing process (but it could just be me).


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

Anything that is known to negatively effect test levels in men should be avoided.

Soy is the biggy.

I find heavy weight training and athletic activity helps me stay vigorous and sharp.


Began December 2009 at 5 7/8" length and 5" girth.

As of December 5th 2012 7 3/8" BPEL and 6 1/8" base girth.

Going for the magic 8"x6"

Update:

As of mid November I have officially gained 0.25” in length. (Finally!)

Here is my current routine:

(1) 20 minutes hang 10#
(2) brief stretched jelqs (till point just before erection starts)
(3) 20 minutes hang 1#
(4) stretched jelqs
* continue hanging normal weight to very light without rest (besides jelqs) till fatigue sets in. Once fatigue sets in:
(5) ADS [Pro Extender]; 20 minute sets with 10 minute breaks in between; till fatigued.
(6) Homemade Elastic Stretcher (made from 2 elastic bands from old boxer briefs). 20 minute sets with 10 minute breaks in between. Till fatigued.
~ the length set is done as many times throughout the day as possible.

(7) wrap base with cloth wrap using firm hold. Then wrap a thick round string around (not tight, but firm). 30 minutes of edging with periodic kegels.
* This is sometimes done immediately after hanging (when fatigue sets in but there are those pleasant arousing sensations).
~ every other day I do the same wrap style before going to sleep. However I put a specifically formulated oil infusion (much like EVO Oil) on my penis and place a condom over it to keep the oil contained around the penis.

This method allows the blood to freely flow in yet slightly simulates the pressure of a clamp that helps keep the blood within and expand the penis in a very slow rate. Yet loose enough to allow the blood to easily drain back out when the erection subsides.

Note: I use the PIs throughout each section of my routine and before and after each exercise. Based on these I can get a better sense when I need to work the stretching or when it’s ready to expand the smooth muscles within to train it to fill with more blood.

P.S., Apparently this routine coincides with Remeks and Iguanas TGC Theory. I refer to this approach as “Crossing the Grid” (referring to the fibers of the tunics mentioned quite a bit).

Although I’m not done with my goal in gains, the theory us proving to hold vital water with my case and can add my success in gains to their theory.


Starting size: 6.25" BPEL (5.5" NBPEL); 6.5" BPFSL; 5.0" MEG (3/2014)

Goal: 6.5" NBPEL (7.25" BPEL); 5.5" MEG

Current size: 6.50" BPEL (5.75" NBPEL); 7.5" BPFSL; 5.25" MEG (11/25/2015)

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