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Possible glans injury improper removal of autoextender sealing sleeve

Possible glans injury improper removal of autoextender sealing sleeve

About a week ago I tried out a blue sealing sealing sleeve I got from autoextender as part of their Vacextender plus kit. I decided to try it out like an Xsleeve. I got it on fine rolling it up on a DIY applicator tube. Seemed to work fine. The problem came the first time I removed it. I rolled it up on my penis and over my glans. Big mistake. I should have just pulled it off. It put enormous pressure on my glans like a giant jelq. Managed to get it off without any obvious damage to my glans but wonder it it did some unseen damage. I have normal feeling in my glans and there are no visible marks on it.

I suffer to some extent from ED and have been trying out supplements incl Tribulus, HGW, ZMA and the 5Gs as well as L-arginine. I had been following the 5 days on 2 days off but may have overdone the test boosters by not also using a longer period cycling (eg 3 weeks on 1 week off specificallly for testosterone boosters. I also cycle my PE on a 6 day on 1 day off. Anyway about my EQ declined a few days before this accident and I stopped PE for a deconditioning break as well as stopping all test boosters. My EQ has slowly recovered and I started using supplements again after a weeks break. I am now getting mild morning woods with the help of L-arginine and I can achieve an erection. However I now cannot seem to climax.

My question is this inability to climax/ ejaculate a result of a glans injury or from using the test boosters too long without a break? I am yet to recommence PE. I also recently had a blood test for testosterone ( about a week after stopping the supplements) and am awaiting the results. Can anyone advise if the supplements or a possible glans injury are likely to affect this test? I am loath to tell the Doc about my PE activities as I am sure he will disapprove. I told him I was taking L-Arginine both for ED and weight reduction. He disapproved and did not seem aware of what it was. He was impressed with the weight reduction though and my blood pressure reading.

BTW, I have been taking 2 gms of L-Arginine on an empty stomach 30 minutes before exercising and I have been achieving excellent weight reduction. I also take another 2 gms along with 2 gms of Orinithine before I go to bed.

No one has replied to my post probably because I raised too many issues. Believe I may have narrowed it down to two. Gave up the supplements for a week and then back on them for 5 days. Believe I can eliminate them as a problem as I got hornier and got better morning wood after going back on. Am currently trying a 3 cycle approach (5days on 2 days off, 3 weeks on 1 week off, 3 months on 1 month off) . I now take milk thistle on the off days as a liver cleanser. See how it goes. Suspect my problem is a combination of a possible glans injury caused by rolling the sleeve over my glans (once) combined with mild tunica soreness from overenthusiastic extending. That came about because I got my DIY Velcro strap technique right and was able to stretch at higher tension without slipping combined with a discovery of heat packs which allowed me to stretch even more. At the time it felt ok but in hindsight my EQ started declining towards the end so I probably should have taken a break earlier. Still feel a bit of numbness/ mild soreness in both my glans and shaft though feeling is getting better. From reading other posts on glans injury, I have decided to extend my masturbation/ sex and PE breaks for at least another week and see how it feels then. Have also increased my ginkyo intake while on supplements to 3 tabs a day based comments on other injury posts and started mild pumping with 5 min bursts combined with kegeling which has been suggested as part of an ED treatment. Am I on the right track?

I’d be surprised if rolling it over the glans could cause more than surface injury. You mention numbness, which is often related to reducing blood flow for too long. You also mention that you are recovering.

It sounds like you are doing roughly the right thing by working on blood flow. Give it time and take it easy and consider hot wraps and even cold wraps (sometimes the combination is useful).

When we injure ourselves worry can play a big part in preventing coming. Mix that in with a bit of numbness and hopefully that’s your answer. It’s hard to tell.

I read your first post several times and your second post too. It was actually hard to extract the information needed for a response (i.e. the amount of time you were wearing the sleeve etc.).

Numbness can take some time to get over.


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Originally Posted by memento
I’d be surprised if rolling it over the glans could cause more than surface injury. You mention numbness, which is often related to reducing blood flow for too long. You also mention that you are recovering.

Memento, when I rolled the blue constriction sleeve, it was fully rolled up before I got to the glans so as I rolled it over the glans the glans really bulged like a giant jelq before I managed to get it off. Thought I get some sort of blister on my glans as a result but superficially I got no damage. I tried removing the sleeve one more time, by simply sliding it over the glans after lubricating it. Worked fine. I might have not explained myself well, when I wrote numbness, I meant it was not as sensitive as normal when aroused. Still had some feeling. The extra sensitivity you get around the frenulum . and the corona did not appear to be there and the shaft was less sensitive as well. I felt something similar (with respect to the shaft) when I first overdid it without a break after getting my extender some months ago. That time I got a blister from a Vacextender and things came good after an imposed 3 week break while the blister healed.

Originally Posted by memento
I read your first post several times and your second post too. It was actually hard to extract the information needed for a response (i.e. the amount of time you were wearing the sleeve etc.).

Memento

My first post was a bit confusing because I raised a lot of possibly complicating factors. I only experimented with the sleeve for about 5 hours. I put it on with a home made applicator which avoided any stress to my unit. While it was on it felt good and did give me a mild stretch. The hassle was the first time I got it off. As there did not appear any injury at the time I tried it again an hour later for about an hour and then slid it off without any hassles. I only noticed later that I could not seem to ejaculate. It was if the trigger that comes on before you reach the PONR was not there. I do not think anxiety is playing a part as I have reached that time in life when you take things as they come. Also mentally I am confident that it will come good and I am not getting any pressure from the wife. I do suffer from ED and that may be relevant. I do not want to raise my PE with the Doc but recently had a testosterone test and am waiting for results. I also have some Cialis but do not want to use it until I am sure I can cum. I usually do not need it other to improve EQ. I recently got a Le Luv pump and have started following Avocet8’s “Vacuum Pumping when you have ED” approach which is on Thunders. Seems to be helping.

Thanks for the hot and cold wrap suggestion Will give it a go. Am also applying Vitamin E cream to my glans. Feels good.

Hey Austfred — I find that the blue constriction sleeve which ships with the Autoextender is a bit tight for my use, I went with the soft-thick blue medium XSleeve and cut it in two pieces because it was more comfortable for just this reason. I definitely can see how the tighter Extender sleeve would be uncomfortable to use as a constriction sleeve and when rolling it off over the tip there might be a pinch and an uncomfortable level of pressure.

My advice would be to use the cap when it comes time to roll the sleeve off so it doesn’t pinch or apply as much pressure to the glans

The easy solution would be just to lift the front bit of the sleeve up from your glans, slide the AutoExtender plastic vacuum cap beneath the sleeve so now it’s over your glans (just like you were going to hook it up to the extender), and then when you roll off the sleeve it’s rolling off onto the plastic cap rather than squishing your glans.

Hope this makes sense.

blue constriction sleeve

Originally Posted by fnargle
Hey Austfred — I find that the blue constriction sleeve which ships with the Autoextender is a bit tight for my use, I went with the soft-thick blue medium XSleeve and cut it in two pieces because it was more comfortable for just this reason. I definitely can see how the tighter Extender sleeve would be uncomfortable to use as a constriction sleeve and when rolling it off over the tip there might be a pinch and an uncomfortable level of pressure.

My advice would be to use the cap when it comes time to roll the sleeve off so it doesn’t pinch or apply as much pressure to the glans

The easy solution would be just to lift the front bit of the sleeve up from your glans, slide the AutoExtender plastic vacuum cap beneath the sleeve so now it’s over your glans (just like you were going to hook it up to the extender), and then when you roll off the sleeve it’s rolling off onto the plastic cap rather than squishing your glans.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks fnargle. I found I could cope with the blue constriction sleeve both in putting it on with a DIY applicator and while it was on. The problem came when I took it off the first time. Rolling it up and over my glans was a dumb thing to do.. Your suggestion of using the cap is a good idea. Wish I had thought of it . Anyway my unit seems to be getting back to normal. The last few days I have been using my new LeLuv pump as suggested by Avocet8 and started applying heat before, during and after as suggested by memento. Seems to be working. My morning woods are better and the numbness I referred to seems now to be a bit of very mild soreness/ tingling around my corona and perhaps just behind it in the groove. It feels like the good type of soreness/ tingling you get when healing is occurring. Hope I am explaining myself right.

Is the soft-thick blue medium XSleeve a bit like the short light blue sealing sleeve which comes with the Vacextender? This is both softer and larger in diameter than the blue constriction sleeve I tried.

update

Finally managed to ejaculate for the first time in a few weeks. Am now pretty sure the issue was the glans injury probably compounded by overdoing the extending leading up to it. I stopped even the pumping I had started because I thought it might slow down glans healing. However I focussed on heat treatment as recommended by Memento, using the heat pad for at least 1/2 hour in the morning when I woke up and 1/2 hour before sleep. Believe it is helping the healing process. Even though I was able to cum my unit still does not feel quite normal. I achieved reasonable EQ (at least compared to before the injury) but still get a tingling / close to stinging feeling which comes and goes concentrated at the back of my glans (eg Corona and possibly extending to the groove). Sorry I cannot describe it better. It is not particularly painful and seems to getting less obvious as time goes on. Will stick to the heat treatment with an ejaculation of no more than once a week till I feel things are back to normal.

I will now treat my glans with more care. I do not know how the nerves in the glans work but the intense squeeze of rolling the constriction sleeve over it must have done some temporary damage.


Last edited by austfred : 06-28-2013 at . Reason: correct the english

second update Voltaren

Things seem to be getting better. Had the best morning wood for ages today.. Continued with the heat and also introduced ice pack a few times. Last couple of days also applied Voltaren gel to my glans area and have since noticed my glans sensitivity is now back to normal. Am now more of the view that rolling the constriction sleeve over my glans must have desensitized the glans to a significant extent even though I felt no real great pain at the time or saw any visual damage. I believe I had also overworked my unit prior to this event through extending. I am slowly getting a better handle on when to take rest breaks. ..Without the help here at Thunders I reckon I would be all at sea on PE.

Anyone wish to comment on the Voltaren gel. I noted on the instructions it said not to apply to vaginas but nothing about penises so I thought it must be ok. Apparently it is only to be used for a limited time (eg a few weeks at most). I am also using it on my knee after getting medial tendonitis after installing some ductwork in my roof and finding out I should have been wearing shoes with orthodics rather than going barefoot while using my exercise bike.

Caution with Voltaren Gel!

From a trusted web advisory site… regarding Voltaren’s side effects

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/voltaren-gel-side-effects.html

“The gel vehicle has also been associated with a high incidence of application site reactions…
Among others….. paresthesia (4% to 20%).

Definition… paresthesia /par·es·the·sia/ (par″es-the´zhah) morbid or perverted sensation;
an abnormal sensation, as burning, prickling, formication, etc.

Sounds like you would be advised to keep this off of your genitals!

Voltaren

Originally Posted by bamuff
From a trusted web advisory site… regarding Voltaren’s side effects

http://www.drugs.com/sfx/voltaren-gel-side-effects.html

“The gel vehicle has also been associated with a high incidence of application site reactions…
Among others….. paresthesia (4% to 20%).

Definition… paresthesia /par·es·the·sia/ (par″es-the´zhah) morbid or perverted sensation;
an abnormal sensation, as burning, prickling, formication, etc.

Sounds like you would be advised to keep this off of your genitals!

Bamuff, thanks for the cautionary note. I got the Voltaren gel because of my medial tendonitis. A friend who is well versed in treating football injuries suggested Voltaren tablets amongst his recommended treatments but the pharmacist was not keen, because of possible interactions with another drug I was taking, She felt it could cause possible kidney damage and also told me to avoid Ifobrofen for the same reason. She said the gel was OK though. I note the instructions said not to use for more than 2 weeks other than with doctor’s advice.

Apart from my knee, I have been applying the gel also to my glans and the area around the groove in very small amounts, once or twice a day for about a week with the odd day off. I have noticed no bad side effects but a huge improvement in sensitivity as well as no more minor aches. I will certainly not use it for more than two weeks. My problem seems to have gone away but I am still resting from PE and will do so for 2 more weeks to make sure the improvement that appears to be related to the Voltaren is not temporary. I have now stopped the hot pack and ice pack treatments

I am also using a compression knee brace and icepack on my knee and it is also almost back to normal.

Paresthesia seems to be like ‘pins and needles’ Some of the other potential side effects seem more worrying. I suspect these are more common with long term use. This link is worth reading http://www.rxlist.com/voltaren-gel-…drug-center.htm

update

My unit seems completely healed. I used the voltaren for just over a week and my glans is now as sensitive as it ever has been. I have not used voltaren for over a week. I have also restarted PE.

In addition to extending with a DIY Velcro strap for about 2 -3 hours a day. I am now dynamic pumping 10 mins most evenings over the range 3 - 10 ” hg with most time at the lower end. I have noticed better EQ than I have had for many years and my BEPL is now over 6” with the best reading at 6.3” which is better than I achieved in my youth. No problems with ejaculation but now have to be careful when extending not to let my unit get too hard while stretching.

Still not sure if I had an injury from rolling the constriction sleeve over my glans or whether I continued to extend well past the point when I should have gone into recovery mode. Probably both contributed to loss of glans sensitivity which resulted in ejaculation difficulties.

I suppose some of us newbies need to have these type of experiences to learn how far to push it and when to take breaks. I am now learning to be more cautious and take longer rest breaks from PE.

Glad to hear it. Thanks for posting the update too, it’s nice when people post that they’ve recovered but I think many consider that less of an urgent thing.


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