Overtraining? Shrunk And Slightly Numb.

I felt some pain in just under the glans, in the CS/urethra. So my conclusion is that my odd grip is too risky. My theory is that it only works for some time. When my penis gets girthier, i end up putting pressure on the wrong places, and then injury myself.

So i tried the overhand grip this weekend. I mix the grip, doing overhand strokes with the right hand and underhand with the left hand. Find it easier this way.
Surprisingly, it seems like i got the grip of it (pun intended). Feeling great! Only some mild pain during and immediately after the exercises. It’s a very different grip, and feels like i need to put less pressure than before.

Now i really need to know how and where exactly place my fingers. What is the area that should be in contact with the penis? The tip of the fingers? The middle phalanges? The very bottom of them? Should that soft part between the thumb and index fingers touch the penis at all?

I use the second phalanx, but it’s ok to use the tips or the third phalanx. The point is to be able to squeeze both cc covering their whole width, so… Your call.

Thanks man! Feels like a big “Eureka” to me

Let’s see how it goes…

Go for it.

I’m not being very lucky recently. I started the overhand jelqing. If anything, i feel smaller in width, and a bit in length. However, yesterday was the first session that i really felt like doing right, that i saw some minimal expansion and felt right. Not like choking and denting my penis, which is what i was felling before.

My CS are great this time at least, as opposed to other times. It’s decent, slightly pronounced, my glans fills up. Everything OK.

My routines are 5~6 minutes max, with long strokes. 2 days on, 1 day off (occasionally one extra day off).Maybe i just have to be patient…

Well PE needs time, so…

Absolutely!

My Friday session was amazing! I’ve found the way to make it right. I used underhand for left hand and overhand for right hand. Used more the right hand than the left. I was getting erect while jelqing, so i would stop stroking, maintaining a mild grip at the base until it faded (didn’t take long). This created so much expansion! At the end of the sessions i could see a lot of veins and a happy, healthy penis.
Saturday and Sunday i had major erections all the time. A lot more libido too.

But oh boy, isn’t the mind powerful. Some personal things went wrong this night, i ended up kind of angry, sad. From this point on i got kind of turtled, not as many erections. Still, i did the routine.
Couldn’t get the same feeling. Could see some mild expansion, though. Had to stimulate it all the time. At the end of the session, it was not looking that good.

Will see how it responds tomorrow. Feeling confident nevertheless :)

Good news mate.

Not so good, haha
The day after my last post, i kinda lost it again.
When i do it right, i can feel it pushing my penis to it’s limit (in regards of size and expansion), and i can maintain the same grip diameter throughout the whole stroke. On the other hand, sometimes i feel like doing nothing, moving no blood at all, feeling no expansion (sometimes even shrinkage), just squeezing my penis and harming it. Then i feel the need to decrease the diameter, make the grip smaller, tighter through the stroke. Does this sound like a bad grip/finger placement problem? Or more like an erection level problem?

No injuries this time, at least.

No…listen I will propose something.

Do PE only when your penis is in the mood for it.

Meaning start your routine normally and if you see you are getting good results finish it. Don’t do more. Just what the routine is.

If you see your penis doesn’t respond well that particular day don’t do the routine. Leave it alone.

Maybe it will work. What do you think about this?

That’s my approach for the last few routines! I’ve been doing this way and feeling good. I only do around 5min of jelqing. Sometimes i want to push further, but i don’t, fearing it may damage me.
I also read that anxiety can really tense up the pelvic floor. I’ve been doing some light reverse kegels since yesterday, and already see some veins,and feel a tiny bit “larger”.
I’ve been very anxious recently.

Well, at least now I’m slowly progressing and learning more about my penis. Can’t wait to add stretches to my routines.

Good. Sounds like a plan

I had a theory for my constant ups and downs in PE. It was that my penis would grow in girth, and that would make the OK grip tighter, causing more pressure on the CS and wrong areas which would injury me and make my dick shrink.

But now i think anxiety plays the bigger role in all this. Since it tenses up the pelvic floor, my erection quality would go down, and circulation would get bad as well. So, when i jelq, its less about moving blood and more about putting pressure on the penis structures themselves, which causes barely no engorgement during or after routines.

Just writing down some thoughts.

Read the injury story bei jtmorgan10 do you have similarities in your symptoms?

Greez

Delicioco, I read your whole thread with interest, I just wanted to tell you my experience which is really similar to yours.

We both have sadly a very sensitive unit, which means compared to other members it takes much less to actually overtrain it. 2 years and a half ago when I started this jelqing thing it took me a lot of months to understand how to not overtrain, because every time I was starting my routine I was constantly getting it.

Things got better when I realized that I didn’t have to stimulate my erection again during my session (always been doing high erection jelqs, others feel nothing to me), because that plus the training would take me to overtrain, so when my dick went soft after the X amount of jelqs that means I just have to stop.

So after realizing this, I finally started to get my first positive signs and my very first gains, but still as of today it takes me just one wrong stupid thing during my session and everything is fucked up again. So what can I tell you is that POSSIBLY we are lucky enough to grow with less than others but it’s also really hard if not impossible to go through heavy routines to push for fast gains, I personally unfortunately will never do that, it will take me to overtrain if not anything worse.

Also I find really important to do jelq when I’m in a good mood only, otherwise I’ll just overtrain because I’m forcing my dick to work when he doesn’t want, and I’m forcing myself too.

It’s really fucking slow and sometimes frustrating to work your unit this way, but unfortunately for us there is nothing that we can do about it.

During my years of jelqing I noticed tho that since my beginning now I’m a bit conditioned to the training and it’s a bit harder to overtrain for my unit which I found great, but that’s also because I learned better how to not make it tired.

One last thing I wanna tell you is, don’t get discouraged if your gains are slow as fuck, because in my 2 years I overtrained so much that I couldn’t be stable enough to actually get some gains, I had a lot of breaks also because of my travels. Long story short I didn’t gain much, something like 0.5cm in girth in almost 3 years, when some people grow almost 2cm in that amount of time thanks also to heavy routines.

Sometimes I get depressed about this, but what I’m sure is that I will potentially grow, I just need patience, I’m still 24 so I’m young and have time to manage this hopefully, is just like to reach 5.7 inches MSEG and I would be done forever, literally I’ll delete my account. I don’t know how much it will take but I’m sure since im 5,5 in a good day at the moment, that I can make it, so I’ll try stay positive.

Take it with calm, or you will keep fucking your unit up for months if not years, you NEED to understand what works for you and most important what DOES not work.

But stay positive, relaxed and slowly work through this, it’s the only thing people with a unit like us can do to actually get some progress.

Most important thing, love yourself because no one will teach you to do that, your unit is already a nice sized one. You sound in a nice relationship also and your girl sounds happy about the sex you give to her from your words, so take care of her and just relax, only this way you will grow.

Recently I injured myself to overtrain again due to doing stupid things because of getting frustrated by not growing. Sometimes ego issues show up when things in life get tough. I fucked up again, and im here recovering but still that’s another lesson I learned hopefully.

Maybe one day I’ll reach my goal, but to be honest from what I’ve seen in this forum the goal everyone should aim for is to not feel the need to grow anymore, because it’s only a matter of ego boost, and ego boost won’t make you feel better about yourself for long time.