Injury from Kegels?

I’m a new member to this forum so I can’t post in the injury thread, so I’m hoping this gets moved.

So I just started PE a few days ago doing light jelqing and kegels. After day one, things felt great. After resting one day and starting day 3, started to notice a loss in my erection strength. So I rested another day and on day 5, I decided not to do any jelqing and to only to kegels and reverse kegels since they seem to have a reputation for being safer. Today, my erection quality is poor (maybe 50 percent) and I feel a slight bulge and a dull, burning pain on the left side on my pelvic floor. I know this is a clear sign of over training and I’m obviously going to stop PE until I heal, but I’d like to hear your guys’ thoughts as to whats going on. I’m sure I’ll heal pretty soon, but I’m still kind of worried.

Thanks

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Some people who had dopplers done after jelqing injuries found their erectile issues were due to reduced inflow, and some with hard flaccid had normal doppler results when lying on their back, but abnormal results when standing up.

It may go away with time, in which case after at most a few weeks you should start to see some improvement. The other option would be to look into light stretches for the pelvic floor and/or other activities geared towards resolving pelvic floor issues, but I would give it a little time to resolve on its own first.

Thank you for your reply. Its much appreciated.

What are dopplers? I’m sorry, but I’ve never heard that term before.

I’ve been doing better these last few days. I’ve Incorporated stretches like the garland pose, which have been very relieving. I’ve been doing RKs here and there as well. Starting to get morning wood at ~50-60 percent.

That’s good, hopefully you can update as things go along. It’s when the urologist injects a solution into your private area that forces the smooth muscles to relax and blood vessels to dilate, then monitors the rate of blood flowing in and out.

Ah I see. Hopefully I won’t need to get one of those.

As for my progress..

Today is a little bit better. Although I’m experiencing a lot of turtling, I have much less pain and I have a much easier time going to the bathroom. I still feel a bulge in my PF, mostly near the anus. It’s not painful, just feels like some swelling. I find stretching and squatting relieves this temporarily. It comes back usually when I stand.

Also, I don’t know if this is a good sign or a bad sign, but I’m quite horny. However, my erections can’t seem to get passed 70%. I want to think thats a good sign, but at the same time I want my BC muscle to rest since I experience a lot of IK when I’m horny.

Lastly, would you advise laying off the leg day at the gym for a while? Or do you think I could be fine with some light lifting. I mainly just want to work on my deadlift form with very light weight.

Is the bulge in a place where you can physically touch it? If so, you may want to try gently massaging it and see if it helps. Gently though, and only for a little at first. Weightlifting generally isn’t recommended with pelvic floor tension, but if you really want to, assuming it’s mild to moderate tension, I doubt it would have any lasting effect. If anything, it would probably just make your symptoms flare up a little more afterwards.

If the bulge is unreachable and improvements slow down, you may want to look into a therawand or seeing a physical therapist to do internal work. There are others who have noticed rapid and major improvements after locating and resolving specific lumps of tension in their pelvic floors, even after having no improvements at all for long periods beforehand. They had hard flaccid though, so it may have been a different type of bulge. If the bulge isn’t easily reachable, you might as well keep doing what you’re doing since it’s improving, but that would be the next thing to look at.

Also the doppler is almost never really needed, it’s just if someone with erectile issues or the urologist wants to know exactly what’s going on with blood flow. etc.

So the bulge isnt actually like a lump or anything. It just feels like the whole area is just kind of swollen. Almost like an enlarged prostate or something? The symptoms ease up after some stretching and squats, so ill continue to do those daily. I tried massaging today, and I had neutral results when massaging the bulged area, but I had relatively good results when massaging various trigger points. This seemed to temporarily resolved my turtling, but it turtles shortly thereafter. I’m not sure if massaging the trigger points actually had anything to do with relieving my turtling other than that it might have stimulated me a little bit. I’ve been on nofap for a while so I’m quite sensitive to any touching. It can’t seem to hurt, so I guess Ill keep massaging too.

From what you’ve said so far, in addition to being temporarily relieved through stretching or massage, it sounds like the turtling doesn’t come and go on its own in random waves, but instead is worse or only when standing. Does the pain come and go along with the turtling, or is there no correlation between when they appear? Is the pain in the same exact spot as the bulge? Does the bulge ever go away or get better, or is it constant? The urologist should be able to accurately determine if your prostate was enlarged, but unless it became enlarged due to this, which is probably doubtful, it wouldn’t be the case.

My bad, I shouldn’t have said enlarged prostate. I doubt I have that. I was trying to describe to you what the bulge kinda felt like and used a poor metaphor. My apologies.

The pain is mostly if not only around the BC muscle. Any kegel or IK causes some mild-moderate burning pain. It hurts sometimes to pee because I seem to have a habit of IK at the end to squeeze the last bit of urine out. The bulge is further down my PF, towards my anus. Its either my PC muscle or the muscle behind it (I know theres a name for that muscle, but I can’t seem to think of it).

There seems to be no correlation between turtling and pain. I don’t believe turtling is exclusive to standing up (although, as I type this, I am seated and not turtled), however it does seem to turtle more (more shriveled and more frequently) when standing.

So these are just my thoughts- the fact that the burning pain is both on the BC and happens more when you kegel seems to suggest a fairly straightforward injury where the muscle is strained or overworked from kegeling too hard. I think the fact that the pain is worse or only present when kegeling is a good sign. It shows that use of the muscle is directly correlated to the pain, which makes it seem more likely that it’s a simple strained or overworked muscle that will get better with rest, careful stretching, massage (starting gently, etc). You could also try applying heat to the area at some point, again starting lightly and briefly, but since it’s improving as is now I wouldn’t do it yet. One other question about the muscle, if you can tell- is the pain around the entire muscle, or is it more on one spot on the muscle?

With the penile and pelvic region, something being out of whack in one spot can cause problems elsewhere, so the issue with the muscle could be directly responsible for the turtling and bulge, but it’s hard to say for certain. Also, the turtling isn’t too concerning either as long as it’s just regular turtling and not hard flaccid. I’ve never had hard flaccid, but from everything I’ve read about it, it would extremely, outrageously obvious if you had it.

Yeah thats what I assumed it was all along. As I’m progressing now it seems like its becoming more apparent. The pain seems like its the entire muscle, not just one spot.

Good news today tho!

I had some trouble sleeping last night and woke up a few times. First time I woke up around 4am with a nice MW in the 80-90% range. Then I woke up another time around 9am and didn’t have MW, but for some reason I was really horny and I inevitably got an erection, this time in the 90-95 range! The bulging feeling in PF has gone down significantly, and the pain from IKs have also gone down significantly, but is still noticeably there. Turtling is less severe and less frequent as well.

Although I’m very happy with the direction this is going, I did have a couple concerns. So those erections I had werent exactly normal. The first one, the mid and upper shaft were rock hard, like painfully rock hard, while the bottom part of my shaft was just normally hard, and the glans was only semi hard and wasn’t really engorged. With the second erection, the mid and upper shaft were again painfully hard, while the bottom shaft was normally and the glans was a bit more engorged than last time.

I think the glans will eventually swell up like usual once I’m fully healed, but I thought Id point it out. What is concerning tho is that mid and upper part of the shaft. What do you think I should make of that?

I wouldn’t make too much of it at this point since things are overall moving in the right direction, and it’s only just appeared. All I can really say about it is that it’s a symptom that’s been reported by some people with hard flaccid.

For sure. Ill keep posting updates as I progress.

Some really good news

Woke up today with a 100% woody. Dick was fully hard from top to bottom, not painfully hard and not semi hard in the glans. Erection seemed a bit stronger than before I started PE. Although I never measured my girth, it does seem a bit chunkier. Theres still some burning pain in my BC muscle when I IK, but much less. No more turtling. No more bulge feeling. Looks like I’m almost fully recovered :)