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Firm flaccid penis

Some other questions: can you recall an event after which this condition started? A possible triggering event?

How long it’s this thing going on? Have you ever done PE since it started? Girthwise, your penis is smaller than a normal flaccid or bigger?

For me jelqing triggered it. I maybe did something wrong.. Over the glans or something. I did once try stretching but it’s unlikely.

I had a mild condition of this for years and thought nothing of it. But after my jelqing injury it is worse. It’s been a couple of months now with no significant changes.

Girth-wise for me it is quite normal. After ejaculation a bit bigger and without it slowly a bit smaller than it should be. But these are really insignificant differences.

I got ED this summer from hanging without warm-ups too much. All was fine, I didn’t know any better, and then one day I did too much and couldn’t get an erection. It may have been phsycilogical because I couldn’t get an erection when I was drunk which is where it all started, and that really worried me, so I figured I injured my penis.

Anyways I waited until everything was fine, and then began light PE, and didn’t get any gains, so I did more. Then my condition happend and I stopped. This was probably back in september or october. I also feel it was caused by jelqing.

Girthwise maybe a little less for me, or the same.

This is definelty my fault.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

I see some members just observing this thread.. Guys, if you have this condition join in, you’ve nothing to lose.

Working together we are much more powerful than each doing the same. Do you realize how much more can we find, compare or try if we stick together? Talking to BMashina alone made me much clearer on our state.

Ok, it’s overtraining. An abrupt amount of work started a protective reaction of your penis and even ligs. To really know if there is some fibrotique tissue a cavernography would be required, but I think it’s unlikely because in that case you should feel plaques in specific places of your penis, not similar to what you guys are describing.

Your penis was shocked by that huge amount of intensity and preserve memory of it, so any time it’s feeling anything vaguely similar to a PE work it overreacts, if it’s clear what I mean. It is kinda an hyperstimulation of penile tissue. Anxiety can have a major impact on that, making the problem worse.

Definitely you have to rest; an anti-anxiety drug can improve a lot your condition I guess, but you have to ask to your Doc before taking any medicine.

There could be some inflammation going on, so taking 1-3 aspirin daily for a week or two can help - but I’m very conservative on that, so it’s better asking your Doc if it’s fine. Vitamin C and E can also help, but don’t take huge doses, just a mild supplementation.

Another very important thing is to have a good sleep. Consider taking melatonin if you don’t sleep very well.

I think I had something somewhat similar, if this can interest:
Help! Explain This, Please!

Marinera, I’m incredibly grateful for your effort to help us.

However I don’t think you are right here, for several reasons.

Penis feels completely normal, rested and not in any way inflamed, bruised or anything. It just feels like the mechanics of it have changed a bit. Then we have erections that are continuously weak in the CS and glans, but can be rock hard in the CCs. Seriously, for me I’ve had them hard as a bone with some ligament covering.

I will however give it time. That’s pretty much all I can do now.

I guess it’s cavernography for me, isn’t it.. :S

What would these plaques feel like?

The anxiety has passed for me too.

I was taking 600mg of Ibprofen a day for a few weeks especially after masturbation which seemed to help, but that may have been physcilogical. I was supplimenting with Vit E for a good two months, with no results, along with many other suppliments, inculding zinc which I hoped would promote new cell growth to heal any damaged tissue.

Thank you very much for you help!


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

Uhmmm…. erections weak in CS and glans? Does that means they are softer? Because glans and CS have to feel softer than the shaft. Look here:
Often soft glans while erect

Another possibility is that you have a venous drainage issue:

Question:I am having erectile difficulties that have been caused by psycogenic and I now suspect physical factors. I have seen several urologists who have told me they can not tell me the reason for my problems. I had a doppler ultrasound under prostglandin e1 that came back normal.

The key symptoms are that i am experiencing slight firmness in the shaft whilst flaccid - it is comparable to ‘hard rubber’, and feels turgid or a little tough (but not fibrous); that the glans of my penis is quite soft (Even a little `mushy`) during erections; i lose my erection without direct manual stimulation; and will lose an erection almost instantaneosly when standing up.

These symptoms occured from about a month ago, when I masturbated quite forcefully under the influence of ecstasy and marijuana. Since then, I noticed immediately the firmness in the flaccid shaft. …..

I am hoping you can help make a diagnosis as I have read hundreds of forum and articles and when it comes to these questions, experts usually say they can`t answer.

In fact my symptoms are near identical to a forum member of another forum/ The expert could not respond. I am hoping you can and have listed his case directly below:

Starting about 3 years ago, my erections became less firm. This phenomenon occured during a 1-yearish episode of depression, which I immediately linked to this symptom. …….

The problem has continued and even gotten worse. I do not often experience morning erections. They do occur occasionally, but quite infrequently. Whereas I used to get spontaneous erections and be able to achieve erection just by visual stimuli, this is no longer the case. I almost always need direct stimulation for a chance to achieve erection. When I masturbate, I almost always achieve erection and maintain it with continued stimulation.

However, the glans often does not become hard although the shaft is. If I discontinue stimulation, the erection disappears quite quickly. Often, if I stand up, even with continued stimulation, the erection disappears. During intercourse, there are rare times when I can maintain an erection for a longer period of time (15-30 minutes). But as said, these times are rare. Sometimes (about 1 time out of every 5 sessions) I lose my erection during intercourse. Sometimes I am able to get it back. ……..


Answer: Dr. Chan Lowe
Hi Richc,

I cannot say for sure but it does sound as if you are having a problem with the venous drainage of your penis. It may be that the “tubes” in the penis that normally fill with blood are not able to fill properly due to an inappropriately relaxed vein that should be constricted more to prevent blood drainage and allow erection.

I am not aware of a direct way to test this. My best advice is to continue to follow up with the urologist.”

Best wishes.”
Link

Thank you for the link, I am going to have to check, my glans get no blood when sitting or laying down without pressure on the doral vein, which when released, the blood leaves quickly as in a few seconds or less. If I adjust my posture and sit up straigh and have my penis straight out, or am standing the glans fill with some blood, but not much. If I reverse kegel, I get excellent erection and glan quality.

I will have to check the CS, I have only recently learned what the CC and CS was.

I am still awating reply from two individuals with venous leaks to see if they share out symptoms.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

Well I am kind of freaked out a bit because i have some of the symptoms. The most important one ( I guess?) the firm flaccid I don’t have, except from normal turtling from time to time most of the time my flaccid hags nice and low.

Also my glans gets pretty hard when I am erect so I don’t have that either. What I do seem to have is a difficulty to maintain the erection without continuous stimulation, which doesn’t bother me that much.I also rarely have morning wood but it has been like that since I was 18 or so.

What is troubling me lately is that I have a very hard time achieving or maintaining my erection while standing. Even with continuous stimulation my dick just doesn’t keep erect when standing up. The only way that i manage to do that is if I sit down and masturbate till I am close to the point of orgasm, and then I can stand up and maintain my erection for some time until I cum.

The weird thing is that I noticed this “issue” a couple of weeks ago, as I never had any problems standing up. Actually it was the other way around I used to masturbate standing up and my erection would weaken when laying down or sitting.

I don’t have any explanation of why this is going on. The only thing is that I have been masturbating since I was around 12 ( 21 now) very often, and since the end of November i masturbated almost every day, some days up to 4 times in the same day plus lots of sex which was sometimes quite rough, and also all my sex and masturbation for the last 5 months or so have been either sitting down or laying down, do you think that might be related?

I will try to lay off masturbation for a couple of weeks and see how this changes, but any of you guys have an opinion/idea?

I am sorry if this is the wrong thread to post this and also sorry for not having any information on how to solve your problem guys. I am just curious about your thoughts as I have some of the symptoms you talked about earlier.


Was (july 07): 5.25 nbp (5.9 bp)X 4.5

July 10 :6.15 nbp (6.65 bp)X 4.8

Goal: 6.75 nbp (7.1 bp) x 5.1 Final goal : 7.25 nbp x 5.3

So basically we all need to use caverject a few times a week in a small, yet effective dose. I know that will heal scar tissue. It said not to use the artificial kind as our “liver might not break it down” (BS) but I for one and not going to stick around and wait for something natural like that.

Marinera,

This Richr guy is the same that was “calling out to all guys with blah blah”, there’s a link to his poll a few pages back. He was very active on the Internet obviously. I sent him an email to see where he stands no but no reply.

Actually I agree it’s a leak. Obviously. But what kind of leak causes such “firm flaccid”? I think normal leaks don’t do that. This damage is different in a way.

BMashina,

Good work. We’re already getting somewhere.

Gryphon,

You asked for opinion so here’s mine. Either just maturing or jelqing. You will have to figure out which one. I have read quite a bit of cases and the common link is often PE or “force-full masturbation” whatever the hell that is. If you are still doing PE, I would avoid coming close to the glans at all costs, since they seem to be much more sensitive. You won’t have the “firm flaccid” until the condition gets more serious. At least I didn’t. Proceed with extra care, like your life depended on it.. Because it does.

Ironaddict,

Can you tell me more about caverject and it’s healing properties?

Originally Posted by Owen33
Gryphon,

You asked for opinion so here’s mine. Either just maturing or jelqing. You will have to figure out which one. I have read quite a bit of cases and the common link is often PE or “force-full masturbation” whatever the hell that is. If you are still doing PE, I would avoid coming close to the glans at all costs, since they seem to be much more sensitive. You won’t have the “firm flaccid” until the condition gets more serious. At least I didn’t. Proceed with extra care, like your life depended on it.. Because it does.

Thank you Owen33, I am sure it not jelqing as I haven’t done any PE since August of last year. So I think I should lay off masturbation for a while right? DO you really think I have the same issue even though I have very few of the symptoms you mentioned earlier?

I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions.


Was (july 07): 5.25 nbp (5.9 bp)X 4.5

July 10 :6.15 nbp (6.65 bp)X 4.8

Goal: 6.75 nbp (7.1 bp) x 5.1 Final goal : 7.25 nbp x 5.3

I’ve been asked by one of the active participants in this thread to make some comments. Like Marinera, I have not read the whole thing. I have read the beginning pages and the ending ones, up to this point.

First, I can’t identify with “firm flaccid,” except as a transient condition caused by cold or hard exercise or life stress. Under these conditions, I get a “firm flaccid.” I have venous leakage and yet I don’t get a “firm flaccid” except in these cases.

There has been a lot of talk in this thread about “valves” in veins. It needs to be understood that veins in the penis are not like veins in an arm or a leg where valves open and partially close repeatedly to keep blood in these extremities from pooling.

Erections do not occur because of little gates suddenly closing. Rather they occur from the accumulation of increased arterial blood flow which expands the CCs causing erectile tissue to _compress_ the interior veins such that less blood is flowing out than is flowing in. This process, during an erection, is never complete except in the case of a priapism. There continues to be some venous blood draining out so that newly oxygenated arterial blood can continue to flow in during the time the erection is maintained, even one that goes on for an hour or two, if one is so lucky. :)

When you are completely flaccid, even with a “firm flaccid” - which seems here to be described as being as turtled as you can get, there is continuous arterial flow in and continuous venous flow out, otherwise our cocks would become necrotic, turn black, and fall off.

There are a whole lot of causes of ED and I have never seen “firm flaccid” listed as one of them. It may be a symptom of something else happening, but it is certainly not a cause of ED.

If one has ED these days, he has to be proactive if he wants to find out the reason for it. Because we have usually effective drugs now (Viagra, Levitra, Cialis, the injectibles), urologists tend to treat symptoms - with the drugs. They tell you they don’t know what’s going on but that this or that will help; they hand you an Rx and pat you on the back. Or they tell you it’s in your head, and surprisingly often, it is, and I’m not saying you guys have psychological ED.

In spite of the fairly good distance between our cocks and our brains, we are all very susceptible to ED because of our reactions to many kinds of stresses. If your partner comments that you have a little cock compared with someone else she/he was with, probably you will wilt. If you worry you won’t get hard when you need to, you won’t get hard because you involuntarily flood your reproductive system with adrenalin just from worrying. I’m sure all of us can make a very long list of psychological freaks outs. :)

In finding a really good urologist, you have to look for a good detective; one with a special interest, and training, in ED. This may take some detective work on your side. Call their offices; ask if Dr. Knowitall has a special interest in ED and is he prepared to do various tests to determine the cause. And, when you go to him, let him know that - while you may want a crutch - you also need very much to understand why you need one.

I hope this helps some.


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Originally Posted by Owen33
Marinera,

This Richr guy is the same that was “calling out to all guys with blah blah”, there’s a link to his poll a few pages back. He was very active on the Internet obviously. I sent him an email to see where he stands no but no reply.

Actually I agree it’s a leak. Obviously. But what kind of leak causes such “firm flaccid”? I think normal leaks don’t do that. This damage is different in a way.

BMashina,

Good work. We’re already getting somewhere.

Gryphon,

You asked for opinion so here’s mine. Either just maturing or jelqing. You will have to figure out which one. I have read quite a bit of cases and the common link is often PE or “force-full masturbation” whatever the hell that is. If you are still doing PE, I would avoid coming close to the glans at all costs, since they seem to be much more sensitive. You won’t have the “firm flaccid” until the condition gets more serious. At least I didn’t. Proceed with extra care, like your life depended on it.. Because it does.

Ironaddict,

Can you tell me more about caverject and it’s healing properties?

Basically I am under a strong impression that long erections, cause smooth muscle to return, and scar tissue to diminish. Caverject can do this.

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