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Firm flaccid penis

Originally Posted by chrono_
Edging may not be such a great idea because you will burn additional testosterone into DHT, which is not good.

Yes, I have since cut this out as it was too hard not to hit the PONR.

Stretching the iliopsoas has not taken any effect that I have noticed.

It also seems my herbs and suppliments are having less of an affect on me as well unfortunatly. I don’t understand how my flaccid can go from 3.5” to 2” and from completley normal to hard and very uncomfortable.

I don’t know, I think my next routine will be something to boost my HGH, more protien, and daily warm massages with a mixture of fish oil and Vit E maybe, and even though I have said it before cutting back on masturbation. I have gone to the point of better to terrible again and again just by masturbating.

I also beleive that this injury has made my erections not so great, which is something I have read from a google search as something other people have experience via this injury. The only good sign I have had as of late is that my morning wood has been frequent.

I wish we could get an answer!


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

I have stopped with almost everything I was doing before. I am now just taking supplement here and there, but a multi-vitamin often.

I masturbate frequently now, maybe 4 times a week, but always take Ibprofen and apply an ice pack to my unit after(for up to 15 minutes). I also only use two fingers to do so, which is actually quite enjoyable. This seems to have really helped. My condition would always get so much worse after just masturbating and the small uncomfortable hard flaccid could last a few days.

I also just incorporated about 20 really light jelq’s and not very intense fowfers. The jelqs I will only do two or three times weekley, and immediatly cut out at the first negative sign.

I am still confused as to what our condition is, but it definetly seemes that we suffer some sort of internal tissue damage, that I wish I knew how to treat. I wish leaving it alone was the answer, but many of us have done that and it never works if the condition doesn’t improved withing month or two it seems(One guy I found in a google search has had this condition for 12yrs).

I do noticed that my unit is sore after masturbating and if I flick my shaft through pants I can feel a deep dull pain. Im just happy it seems to be working better, and has so for about two weeks now.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

BMashina-

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BMachina.

You need to leave it alone. No masturbating no exercising Try to avoid erections even.
(they only give you the urge to do something.)

You have strained your penis and it needs time to recuperate. Doing any sort of exercise will only aggravate the injury. It’s rather like picking at a sore on your arm. If you keep scratching it it will not get better.

A month off everything would be helpful


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BMashina.

You need to leave it alone. No masturbating no exercising Try to avoid erections even.
(they only give you the urge to do something.)

You have strained your penis and it needs time to recuperate. Doing any sort of exercise will only aggravate the injury. It’s rather like picking at a sore on your arm. If you keep scratching it it will not get better.

A month off everything would be helpful


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Originally Posted by petitfaun
BMashina.

You need to leave it alone. No masturbating no exercising Try to avoid erections even.
(they only give you the urge to do something.)

You have strained your penis and it needs time to recuperate. Doing any sort of exercise will only aggravate the injury. It’s rather like picking at a sore on your arm. If you keep scratching it it will not get better.

A month off everything would be helpful

Yeah, but this injury is odd, and doesnt seem to heal for a lot of people, even after a few months of minimal irritation. I left mine alone for a month and a half without much improvement, then I began to take supplements, which I only saw a temperary improvement with.

However, I have been masturbating more and more lately, and morning wood is great, erections seem to be getting stronger. I few nights ago I watched porn and maintained a 45min erection without stimulation just to prove I could.

I think the key is to use get erections and blood flow in there, but take and anti-inflammitory medication and apply ice for a while after you masturbate.

This is the only thing that has helped me STAY NORMAL for more than just a few days to a week.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

OK it’s time to face the fact that I too have this condition. There is no doubt it was caused by PE. From my reading it is obvious that this is the most common PE injury and far more dangerous than venous leak. But other people get it too from too strong masturbation, wrestling, drug abuse or even no apparent reason at all.

My best guess is that we have some sort of smooth muscle tear and scarring which blocks the normal function and blood-flow, both in erect and flaccid state. And scars to my knowledge do not go away, or they go away very very slowly. I wish we had a brighter explanation.

Moreover, since this condition is not recognized medically, finding a cure is still less probable. First they have to know that a problem exists, then they can treat it.

Because of all this we should get organized, perhaps find a place online for ourselves only where we can get bounce ideas and coordinate our efforts. This way everyone’s doing the same and we all amount to one desperate man.

Where is everyone, how come nobody posts anymore?

BMashina?

Portland?

Crono?

Ghost?

Any news guys? Did anyone get better? Did anyone get his condition recognized by a doctor?

I though have found a great way to keep my penis feeling normal and healthy.

I’m still here.

It seems to improve, but my 18yr old mind causes me to masturbate frequently. My erections seem to be fine(deflated glans if shaft is pointed upwards, which I think is due to a venous leak caused by this condition). Other than that it’s all good.

If I go a while(2 days or more) without masturbating my symptoms get better. Other than that it’s a firm flaccid penis.

I agree with you on the scaring, however there are times when my flaccid is 100% normal and wonderful. I was having luck with anti-inflammitory meds and ice-packs following masturbation, but they don’t seem to have much of an affect as before.

What did you find? I have read a decent amount, and tryed many things, so far the only thing that makes it better is to stop masturbating, which I cannot do for more than a few days.

Sorry I haven’t been here for a while, whenever I come here I get a little depressed due to my injury.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP


Last edited by BMashina : 01-27-2010 at .

Glad you wrote in.

I know exactly what you mean about not coming here. I have a strong avoidance towards exploring about our condition, but I also feel we need to do it and do it by sticking together.

So.. We all seem to have the weak glans problem. What you describe about masturbation effects too seems common to us all.

Well who knows, maybe the firm flaccidity can indeed be only a side effect of a venous leak, especially one caused by PE? Although not too bright in itself, it is a better option then having an undiagnosed disorder.

One thing I’m confident about is this. Our condition, if it is not a penile BLOOD-FLOW / CIRCULATION problem, it is something that is VERY closely connected to blood-flow. Why else would it depend so much on body-position, underwear, temperature, and besides why else would erections decrease?

It is no problem for me to go without masturbation for a very long period of time (at least that’s what I suspect) and I plan on doing it now. I think I’ll do a 3 month abstinence now to see if something changes. The flaccid will surely improve but, ONLY masturbating AFTER such a break will actually tell me if I healed or not. Since masturbation is what “bring is up”. So in a way there’s no need for you to do it to know if it works, I’ll just let you know the results. However I must mention that we already have at least two guys that tried that (ghost and crono) and they would surely bring valuable feedback.. Unfortunately they did not post recently.

Are you in contact with anyone who has this problem? Have you any info on the progress of anyone?

Getting people together should be a priority for us since we would have so much more energy, time, info, feedback and everything else at our disposal. We could even conduct experiments or something.

P.S. Where did you take you nick from?

Excellent, glad you posted.

It may be a side effect of a venous leak, we should contact ones confirmed with this condition(venous leak) if they have experienced firm flaccid. I am not in contact with anyone however, not any info of anyone getting better. Google searches come back with some things, all of them are in the same boat as us, which is simply no clue.

Have you ever had days where everything is normal almost? I have and my dick always goes back to it’s firm state. I sometimes find that if I get a bad case of firm flaccid, I stop masturbating to let it go away, but for some reason it doesn’t for a few days. Then I masturbate anyways and it gets better for some reason.Point of what I just typed is that this is a very confusing injury.

I myself am attempting a two week break from masturbation, and have a chart on me so I can check it off, and always have somethin to keep me from masturbating. I am only at day two.

Do you have soreness in your dick?

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- My take on this injury is that we have damaged and scarred the smooth muscle in our penis’s severly somehow, or do not have the ability to heal as others do for some reason. This damage causes a venous leak from what I understand anyways, however our form is different as only the glans are affected, with the shaft to some degree. I can get erections fine, get morning wood, and watch porn and maintain an erection without stimulation until I get bored. Not a 100% erection, but those with a venous leak often do not have the ability to maintain an erection. I think that we need to find a good treatment for allowing circulation in the penis without the aid of heat or something that may cause inflammation and irritation, and treat the scarred tissue.

The problem with the injury, for those who read and ask what the problem is, is that it is very uncomfortable, and do to the position somewhat of a turtling effect makes our package’s look quite small at times, which is a huge destroyer of confidence.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP


Last edited by BMashina : 01-28-2010 at .

I said it once and I’ll say it again. I had this to a medium degree UNLESS I take wellbutrin XL at 150 mg or higher. I have a very long and “spongy” flaccid from it, all the time. Even bigger when I am cold.

Originally Posted by ironaddict69
I said it once and I’ll say it again. I had this to a medium degree UNLESS I take wellbutrin XL at 150 mg or higher. I have a very long and “spongy” flaccid from it, all the time. Even bigger when I am cold.

Ah sorry, you haven’t reported back. I have always found temporary fixes, and kinda thought this was one of them. I’ll look into and aquire some of this if I can.

Do you still take the arginine and cialis with it? Did you phase them out because they did nothing to help? How long have you been taking this? Have you stopped taking it, and if so what happened?


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

Goal: 6.5" x 5.25" NBP

I got back on it recently, 8 hours later my flaccid was great again. Erections also better. To me, it just felt like my unit was kind of cold, lacked blood. It worked fine, just didn’t feel right.

Instead of speculating, why don’t you see a urologist and have them scan your penis after they shoot you up with caverject?

BMashina,

I have days when it feels completely normal, even super-healthy but still that’s not permanent.

I never have any soreness but today I experienced some weird dull ache accompanied by the firmness. First freaky thing in a long while, I hope it was harmless.

From what you say your state seems to be quite good. Especially the bit about erections without stimulation.

You know there are different venous leaks. There’s a leak from messed up tissue and it might well be that.

Ironaddict,

We are not looking for products to mask our condition, but ways to HEAL it. I don’t feel like taking stuff my whole life to make it seem normal. Besides don’t forget that we have weaker erections too.

I’ve been at the uro and he was utterly uninterested in all that. He didn’t even suggest a sonogram so.. Much like others experience.

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