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DMSO + Iodine Experimental Treatment for Deflated Glans and Firm Flaccid

Originally Posted by ironaddict69
So tweaking, you would apply the solution, then pump while it soaked in? I have done it for a few days now, I am not seeing a difference. I do seem to retract after I apply it because it “burns” to a small degree, nothing I cannot handle I just fan it off and it relaxes a bit.

I don’t make a special effort to apply the solution just before pumping, I don’t see the point. Just apply it a whole bunch of times a day, like 5 or more times for 2 weeks, if possible, and do your normal pumping routine.

Originally Posted by OsQ
I feel the same, I don’t have pelvic pain, just some kind of discomfort, my neck is in bad state, I crank my neck to release the discomfort/tension, I think that some of the tension is driven by the upper shoulder blades/trapezius, I feel the worst after I wake up, my neck is stiff, I can barely twist it. I lost some of my flexibility, I’m looking for a chiropractor and a new pillow (tried several).

Sparyx, Does chiropractors treat pelvic muscles? What do they use to treat it?

Yeah I crack my neck almost constantly, all day. Minor shoulder adjustments or even pressing my fingers to the right of certain vertebrae will produce a cracking or clicking which gives me extremely temporary relief. Most of the time I don’t sleep with a pillow at all or a very thin one and always sleep flat on my back on a relatively hard mattress, which is what has been recommended to me.

Sparky, my only question is - and I think others would probably like to know as well - how would I go about finding a good chiropractor? Can you give any advice, undirected trial and error would be a pain. I don’t suppose you have any contacts in Adelaide, Australia? Also, the palm mag can be gotten for much cheaper than the PowerMag, but apparently it’s not as good, did you use it with success?

I’m also thinking about getting a TENS machine, which if my assumptions are correct, does a pretty similar thing to the PowerMag, though instead of inducing an electrical current in the tissue, it simply passes one through. I never really looked into it but apparently now you can buy insertable probes specifically designed for internal use (anal/vaginal). Considering the only definite success story I’ve heard about with this issue was from a guy basically getting internal anal massages (massaging the pelvic area from inside), internal probes might be a good idea.


Last edited by Tweaking : 02-02-2012 at .

So, years pass, technology improves. Years ago when I got an ultrasound of the penis, the Urologist said he could not scan my region of pain, because that near the glans the blood vessels become too small. Yesterday this new urologist scans my region of primary complaint, and tells me that the tissue there is 4mm thick, twice as thick as it should be, and indeed twice as thick as it is on the right side of my penis in the corresponding region. He says that it is almost certainly scar tissue, and has diagnosed me with Peyronie’s Disease. He also believes I have some scar tissue further down the shaft.

I feel a couple of different feelings about all of this. Firstly a lot of frustration. I spent so long desperately asking doctors “How can you tell me there’s nothing structurally wrong with my dick? I have pain in it where there was trauma, I have curvature I never had, I overnight became unable to get a full erection, even while sleeping (Rigiscan confirmed)” All these years could have perhaps been more productively spent if they hadn’t told me they didn’t think it could be scar tissue/Peyronie’s. Secondly there is a feeling of relief that the god damned ambiguity is gone from the problem, this phantom malady has been very distressing. Thirdly, however the Peyronie’s diagnosis is foreboding, there is, as I understand it, not a good recovery rate with Peyronie’s.

In any event, I’ve been put on a 6 month regimen of Pentoxyflyine (anti-fibrotic). I asked the urologist if he thought I should go ahead and use my traction device and pump in conjunction with that, he thought that was a good idea, the traction device particularly. I also mentioned to him that I’d read on a Peyronie’s forum about people have some success with a tincture of DMSO and Iodine. What followed there was the sort of response you sometimes get from a doctor along the lines of “Well, there’s not enough trials/evidence for me to recommend that to you, or to even say ‘sure go ahead could help’….but you’ll notice I’m speaking about it like it’s an interesting idea, and not saying a word against it, can you hear how much I’d like to tell you ‘yeah, maybe, go for it’? “. I liked this doctor. He patiently heard me out, there was some degree of time being a factor, but less that feeling than most doctors give you.

Originally Posted by jackman2020

I also mentioned to him that I’d read on a Peyronie’s forum about people have some success with a tincture of DMSO and Iodine. What followed there was the sort of response you sometimes get from a doctor along the lines of “Well, there’s not enough trials/evidence for me to recommend that to you, or to even say ‘sure go ahead could help’….but you’ll notice I’m speaking about it like it’s an interesting idea, and not saying a word against it, can you hear how much I’d like to tell you ‘yeah, maybe, go for it’? “. I liked this doctor. He patiently heard me out, there was some degree of time being a factor, but less that feeling than most doctors give you.

Sounds good - that’d be the limit of what he’s allowed to say in terms of positivity for such a totally unverified treatment without getting himself in trouble. Definitely go for a traction device, what I’ve read about them is they’re very good for Peyronie’s. It will be very interesting to see how the DMSO/I treatment goes with you.

Originally Posted by Tweaking

Yeah I crack my neck almost constantly, all day. Minor shoulder adjustments or even pressing my fingers to the right of certain vertebrae will produce a cracking or clicking which gives me extremely temporary relief. Most of the time I don’t sleep with a pillow at all or a very thin one and always sleep flat on my back on a relatively hard mattress, which is what has been recommended to me.


I doubt this is effecting the the firm flaccid, but it sure effects your comfort and well being. For guys like you its almost ALWAYS a C7 (seventh and lowest cervical vertebra) and or the first thoracic or T1. When you get the right vertebra, the tightness and discomfort begins to disappear for longer and longer periods until its gone. When you are “cracking” the ones above the real problem, it feels better for a short period of time, then comes right back. C7 and or T1 needs to be looked at.

Originally Posted by Tweaking
Sparky, my only question is - and I think others would probably like to know as well - how would I go about finding a good chiropractor? Can you give any advice, undirected trial and error would be a pain. I don’t suppose you have any contacts in Adelaide, Australia? Also, the palm mag can be gotten for much cheaper than the PowerMag, but apparently it’s not as good, did you use it with success?

Unfortunately, I don’t know anyone in Australia. let alone in Adelaide. What I tell people in general is you want to go by referral. Ask around. What you WANT to hear is that he/she gets results fast, that they had a problem and in a few Adjustments, they did much better…and now they either just come in when needed or get checked once a month or every few months because they do so much better when they do. You really want to hear them raving that he/she is a “miracle worker”…thats the type of referal you want. A really good Chiro should have his patients just raving how good he is.

What you DON’T want to hear, which is what a lot of Chiros do in this country is sign the patient up ahead of time for many visits, like 30 or 50 or whatever. If you have a Chiro that insists that he knows how many visits it will take and wants you to sign up for multiple visits and pay ahead of time….walk out the door.

Also, in general the better he is at his Adjustments (moving the bone) the less physical therapy he needs or uses. If the guy has tons of Physical therapy (like hot packs, massage, ultrasound, electro stim etc) it means his adjustment skill sucks and he needs all that other stuff to get any relief for patients at all. I worked for years with just my hands and got great results just from the adjustments. Its only recently that I have been experimenting with modalities that actually accelerate healing on a cellular level, like the Tenant Biomodulator or the PalmMag. But even then, if the pain is from a vertebra that is out of place and stuck, those modalites won’t help much. However if I made the correction first and THEN use the magnet or whatever, patients get well even faster than normal.

The second part of your question concerns the PalmMag vs PowerMag. They both do the same job, the newer one…the PowerMag is just a better drive mechanism, so it lasts longer and is less likely to breakdown. I personally own two PalmMags which I bought from Ebay. The therapeutic effect is exactly the same with either model.

Which reminds me to discuss…if they are so damn good, who would sell theirs on Ebay? It goes back to what I just said. If the pain you are having is because of a vertebra out of place, its a lot like having a big rock on your foot. You can take pain killers and anti inflammatories, but until you take the rock off, it will only give temporary relief.

If the pain is primarily due to a muscle, the Magnet will have a rapid and dramatic effect. If the muscle is spasm-ed because of the nerve being pinched, it will come back quickly. If the pain is due to the joint being inflamed because it is out of place and stuck…it won’t help much at all.

So, will it help with the firm flaccid? Thats a big IF! IF the firm flaccid is due to a pelvic muscle spasm only…it would probably help a lot. IF the muscle spasm is due to a vertebra pinching the nerve…it will help for a little while and come back. IF its due to something else…then its doubtful it will help. I hope you guys follow my line of reasoning there.

The great thing about the Magnets (Power or Palm mag) is I can tell you almost everyone of the patients I use it on, wants one. I think EVERYONE should have one of these babies, because it is just wonderful for sore muscles and sometimes sore joints (if the aren’t stuck and out of place, then it doesn’t help). For just everyday life and athletes, it beats the hell out of aspirin or ibuprofin or whatever. It gives rapid relief without chemicals that stress your liver or kidneys. If you can get one in good shape for about $100, you will be pleased. A friend of mine just got a nearly new PowerMag for $115…which was a great deal because new from Nikken its $275.00! So, watch for a good deal and you can get it certainly under $200…at least here in the States.

Originally Posted by Tweaking

I’m also thinking about getting a TENS machine, which if my assumptions are correct, does a pretty similar thing to the PowerMag, though instead of inducing an electrical current in the tissue, it simply passes one through. I never really looked into it but apparently now you can buy insertable probes specifically designed for internal use (anal/vaginal). Considering the only definite success story I’ve heard about with this issue was from a guy basically getting internal anal massages (massaging the pelvic area from inside), internal probes might be a good idea.

No, completely different. Tens uses a current frequency that just overloads the sensory nerve so you don’t feel the pain as much. The Magnets actually relax and accelerate healing…totally different. Plus the magnetic field penetrates completely thought the body without sticking a probe up your butt. It induces a small current through INDUCTANCE.

I have a very expensive electrical device (Tenent Biomodulator) that was originally developed by the Soviets. It puts a charge on the cell walls to accelerate healing, but because it was electrical, you need to use CONDUCTANCE to get to a deeper organ or muscle…and that requires an in depth understanding of Acupuncture Meridians, which I don’t have. As I mentioned, I had a young lady with a pulled hip flexor (psoas) and I couldn’t help her with either deep tissue massage or the Tenent Biomodulator…but the PalmMag fixed it in 5 minutes! It can penetrate right though your body and put in voltage or current through INDUCTANCE…which is what makes it so great!

Originally Posted by jackman2020
So, years pass, technology improves. Years ago when I got an ultrasound of the penis, the Urologist said he could not scan my region of pain, because that near the glans the blood vessels become too small. Yesterday this new urologist scans my region of primary complaint, and tells me that the tissue there is 4mm thick, twice as thick as it should be, and indeed twice as thick as it is on the right side of my penis in the corresponding region. He says that it is almost certainly scar tissue, and has diagnosed me with Peyronie’s Disease. He also believes I have some scar tissue further down the shaft.

The DMSO and iodine have really shown great promise in reducing the scar tissue. The other thing I have been experimenting on myself is Systemic Enzymes.

The concept is a enteric coated enzyme that passes the digestive process and gets into the blood stream to clear unwanted debris like scar tissue. I have been using it because after years of Power Lifting, I think I built up a lot of scar tissue in my legs that resulted in constant achyness that I have been unable to get rid of even with all my tricks.

The Systemic Enzymes have almost completely cleared it!

http://www.astenzymes.com/exclzyme

This is their first and best general formula, although I added this to it;

http://www.astenzymes.com/peptizyme-sp

There is Serrapeptase in the Exclzyme, but if scar tissue is your problem, then you might want to get a higher dose. I suggest reading the website and especially the testimonials…pretty impressive and like I said, I have been able to get rid of my constant achyness that I couldn’t shake. These need to be taken on a completely empty stomach and wait at least 30 minutes before eating.

The other thing is Vitamin E has also been used successfully for Peyronies in the past, but make sure you get Natural E and with mixed tocopherols…don’t get the synthetic stuff.

Thanks Sparkyx. Funny thing, my father just yesterday was talking to me about the idea of systemic enzymes for scar tissue. I appreciate the advice and a good source to check out. Do I understand that you yourself have dealt with scar tissue in the penis, or are you just referring to your legs?

Originally Posted by sparkyx
The DMSO and iodine have really shown great promise in reducing the scar tissue. The other thing I have been experimenting on myself is Systemic Enzymes.

The concept is a enteric coated enzyme that passes the digestive process and gets into the blood stream to clear unwanted debris like scar tissue. I have been using it because after years of Power Lifting, I think I built up a lot of scar tissue in my legs that resulted in constant achyness that I have been unable to get rid of even with all my tricks.

The Systemic Enzymes have almost completely cleared it!

Http://www.astenzymes.com/exclzyme

This is their first and best general formula, although I added this to it;

Http://www.astenzymes.com/peptizyme-sp

There is Serrapeptase in the Exclzyme, but if scar tissue is your problem, then you might want to get a higher dose. I suggest reading the website and especially the testimonials.pretty impressive and like I said, I have been able to get rid of my constant achyness that I couldn’t shake. These need to be taken on a completely empty stomach and wait at least 30 minutes before eating.

The other thing is Vitamin E has also been used successfully for Peyronies in the past, but make sure you get Natural E and with mixed tocopherols.don’t get the synthetic stuff.

Sparky, thanks for your great info!
Gives me hop for my peyronies. I have several hard tissue(scars.) in my dick.
Traction didnt help me that much. I have some hourglasing - no bend.

I will search for serapetase in natural form. I think these pills are never that effective like the natural source.
Well, please report if you get any news or improvement in your scar tissue.
2012 -13 we will see a drug called xiaflex(injected) that my help too but I would prefer a natural solution.

I tried pentox for a while and LOVED what it did for my dick. I had the hardest erections I have ever had in my life, without stimulation.

However, it did give me anxiety, and made me lose weight (muscle for me). I had to discontinue. I was stacking it with cialis, and I recommend you do that also.

Originally Posted by jackman2020
Thanks Sparkyx. Funny thing, my father just yesterday was talking to me about the idea of systemic enzymes for scar tissue. I appreciate the advice and a good source to check out. Do I understand that you yourself have dealt with scar tissue in the penis, or are you just referring to your legs?

Just the legs, although I did a couple cycles with dmso and iodine applied to my unit, to see if it helped accelerate gains, the answer is no.

Originally Posted by dickerschwanz
Sparky, thanks for your great info!
Gives me hop for my peyronies. I have several hard tissue(scars.) in my dick.
Traction didnt help me that much. I have some hourglasing - no bend.

I will search for serapetase in natural form. I think these pills are never that effective like the natural source.
Well, please report if you get any news or improvement in your scar tissue.
2012 -13 we will see a drug called xiaflex(injected) that my help too but I would prefer a natural solution.

Look I’m a big believer in natural form, but for Systemic enzymes, it MUST get past the stomach or the enzymes are destroyed by stomach acid, so it needs a capsule that will get it past the stomach and into the small intestine…and then dissolve. Delivery system is really the difference between it working and just wasting your time and money. Germany used to be a leader in the field of Systemic Enzymes, Wobezyme is IRC is originally from Germany.

Serrapeptase is an enzyme secreted by silk worms to dissolve the cocoon…good luck sucking it out of the little guys!

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

I tried pentox for a while and LOVED what it did for my dick.

I was stacking it with Cialis, and I recommend you do that also.

I was prescribed that too, unfortunately it’s so expensive I don’t know if I’ll be able to use it as much as I should.

5 mg a day is all it really takes. Pentox is already a PDE inhibitor.

I’m not sure what price it was available to you at, but my pharmacy says it’s gonna be about $23 per 20mg pill. So at that rate it’d be $171 a month. Do you know of a better deal?

Yeah man, you need to go check online. Read around, Webslave has a link around here and a page dedicated to it.

Thanks, I saw it some time ago, and never sifted all the way through the thread, I know some of the sites mentioned early in it aren’t around anymore. I’ll shift this part of the discussion to that thread, but if you know which sites are currently good, or whether I’ll have to have my doctor reissue my prescription elsewhere, please PM me, or meet me at that thread. Thanks for your help. Interesting note, this morning I had the best morning wood I’ve had in a long time. I think that having a decreased focus on my muscle misbehavior, now knowing that it’s not the really/primary/permanent problem, resulted in having less anxiety throughout the day (which also means less muscle tension).

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