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DMSO + Iodine Experimental Treatment for Deflated Glans and Firm Flaccid

Tweaking I agree with a lot of what you’ve said, but I can say that in my own case there is a gradual downward curve that has been acquired through this, and a small divot in the left CC. I believe that the curve, and much of the ED is the result of the symptoms you describe, however in my case, I can also see, when I look at my erection, the glans being pulled to the left, as though it had a hinge at the point where I feel pain and tightness (just below the glans). I’ve had periods of no pain, and of pelvic muscle calm, and they’ve never resulted in restored erection. I believe all the things you said about the perennial muscles causing contraction, and interference with blood flow are right on, and very astute, in your case they may also be the only factor, they certainly do contribute to mine. Aside from the other reasons that I think the point of tightness and pain in my penis (just below the glans) is very significant there is another. When I’m becoming erect if I place a slight straightening force, at that point, my entire penis inflates better, very quickly, it becomes quite a bit more rigid, and inflated. Unfortunately this goes away in an instant , if I let go, and it doesn’t last too long if I hold it, because this feeling isn’t very erotic for me, and I have with my problems (probably due to venous leak) a scenario where my erections fade a lot, second to second without arousal.

I have spent years on the idea of chronic pelvic tension causing my pain and sexual dysfunction. If you have a great interest in the idea you should check out a book called ” A Headache in the Pelvis” by Dr. David Wise. In the meantime I’m going to try to sign up at hard flaccid, always interested in more insight.

Originally Posted by ironaddict69
It’s definitely a chronic pelvic tension. Hardflaccid website, sign up.

As a Chiropractor, I have found many times chronic muscle tension is due to irritation of the nerve where it exits on a Spinal level.

Years ago, I had a female patient who came for low back pain. I found out later she also had vaginismus, which resulted in very tight muscles in the vagina opening area and always painful intercourse.

She came back ecstatic because when I corrected her low back pain, the painful intercourse cleared also, and she had it for about 15 years. I told her that her husband owed me a case of Johnny Walker (never got it) LOL.

It would be interesting to get an anatomy book or chart and see what part of the spine the nerves to those muscles come from and have a skilled Chiropractor check and adjust those Spinal levels and see if it clears it.

The other possibility is I found that the PowerMag or the older model PalmMag by Nikken works miracles on tense muscle…just totally relaxes them. However, if they are being spasmed by a “pinched nerve” it will probably only help for a short period of time. You can buy a used one on Ebay for between $100-$200 dollars. The great thing is because it is a magnetic field, you can access even deep muscle with it.

Tweaking, there’s something I’ve been meaning to ask you. If I understand you, you now believe that the problem is 100% pelvic tension and dysfunction, and that there is no additional point of constriction in your penis. Based on that, by what mechanism would you imagine you experienced such profound results through the application of DMSO+iodine to your penis?

Jackman, it does sound like you’ve got something else going on in there, I guess scar tissue would be the obvious culprit. I think the temporary relief I felt was a combination of 3 things. Firstly I did remove some scar tissue, I think, which contributed. Secondly, having that definite conformation of some alleviation of symptoms made me feel good about it and probably also contributed via placebo affect, thereby reducing my stress levels and since this is basically a stress-injury, that was probably the biggest factor. Finally, it’s possible the DMSO and/or iodine was having a systemic effect on my body, helping my muscles relax.

If you’re losing your erection within seconds, then that does sound like a venous leak, in which case I think you should definitely try the DMSO/I. Ideally, I suggest you also do pumping concurrently, which is how I got results.

Sparkyx, that is very intriguing. I don’t actually suffer from lower back pain (or even pelvic pain much - mostly discomfort) but my upper back and neck is and has been in a terrible state for years and years and seems to be slowly getting worse. I’ve seen a chiropractor before but he didn’t inspire me particularly so I didn’t bother going back, I think I need to find the right one. I’ve tried getting physio for the neck but it requires on going treatment for ages that I’ve never A. properly committed to or B. been able to afford.

What is this PowerMag thing you speak of? EDIT: I googled it. I couldn’t really get an idea of how it helps you. Do you apply it locally to an area of tension or just nearby you? What kind of therapeutic value are we talking here, like, do you think it would actually have a useful application in the pelvic area, which is fairly deep tissues?


Last edited by Tweaking : 02-01-2012 at .

Yes, I definitely plan on trying the treatment. Also I’m seeing a new Urologist later today, hope something comes of that. I got some muscle work done yesterday with what I’m inclined to believe was a very skillful masseuse (I have no frame of reference), he was able to get my perennial region to relax quite a bit through a combination of friction on my abdomen and thigh, as well as holding a triggerpoint on the side point of my abdomen. Unfortunately once it was over and I was up and walking around much of the muscle tension returned, and within a few hours I’d say the majority of it was back, but i suspect the tension was better than if I’d not had the massage.

One of the complications of my situation, which I don’t imagine you have, (not having pain) is that whenever that region of my penis is touched there is a large degree of pelvic flexing that I can’t stop as a reaction to the pain (even on days when the pain is relatively low) this has a negative effect on my erections, and definitely leads to premature ejaculation. There have been 3 occasions over the last 3 years where I’ve had my full erection, and on those occasions stamina went from being something I have nearly zero control over to being very, very easy.

Originally Posted by Tweaking
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Sparkyx, that is very intriguing. I don’t actually suffer from lower back pain (or even pelvic pain much - mostly discomfort) but my upper back and neck is and has been in a terrible state for years and years and seems to be slowly getting worse. I’ve seen a chiropractor before but he didn’t inspire me particularly so I didn’t bother going back, I think I need to find the right one. I’ve tried getting physio for the neck but it requires on going treatment for ages that I’ve never A. properly committed to or B. been able to afford.

What is this PowerMag thing you speak of? EDIT: I googled it. I couldn’t really get an idea of how it helps you. Do you apply it locally to an area of tension or just nearby you? What kind of therapeutic value are we talking here, like, do you think it would actually have a useful application in the pelvic area, which is fairly deep tissues?

You may not get pain at the area of it being pinched. The only nerves you feel pain from are sensory nerves. You can have a motor nerve being pinched and have no pain at all. Yeah, you need to find a good one, good at being able to move one vertebra at a time. He needs to break out the books and see what spinal levels innervate that muscle, and then check it.

As far as the Power or Palm Mag, you place it as close to the muscle as possible and run it on it. I believe that the moving magnetic field INDUCES an small voltage in conductive tissue (blood makes it a conductor). That small voltage helps normalize the cell wall charge, and relaxation and healing occurs. That is at least my theory.

One small example of many, many I have had. I had a female patient apx 25 years old. She had a spasm in the right psoas muscle (hip flexor) that was chronic and persistent. Over 6 months, I was unable to help her with it, (her primary problem was low back pain, which I fixed quickly). I used all my normal tricks and was not able to help her get over that spasm. When I got my PalmMag, I used it on her psoas for 5 minutes and it cleared up instantly and never came back!

Anyway, if this was my problem, that is the approach I would try…good Chiropractic and if that didn’t clear it, get a Power or Palm Mag by Nikken from ebay and try that. Ideally both, but either one even separately would be worth a go. As far as Chiropractic, I would be looking for a vertebra that had a lot of rotation on it relative to the one below…it tends to close off the holes the nerves exit from, and create a lot of neural symptoms.

Feel free to pm me if you have questions.

Originally Posted by jackman2020
Yes, I definitely plan on trying the treatment. Also I’m seeing a new Urologist later today, hope something comes of that. I got some muscle work done yesterday with what I’m inclined to believe was a very skillful masseuse (I have no frame of reference), he was able to get my perennial region to relax quite a bit through a combination of friction on my abdomen and thigh, as well as holding a triggerpoint on the side point of my abdomen. Unfortunately once it was over and I was up and walking around much of the muscle tension returned, and within a few hours I’d say the majority of it was back, but i suspect the tension was better than if I’d not had the massage.

If a motor nerve is being pinched, this is exactly what happens. Massage helps temporarily and then it comes right back. IF it is a pinched motor nerve, and the Chiropractor corrects it, the muscle relaxes instantly. I see and feel this everyday in my practice, but usually in muscles along the spine…but the principle is exactly the same.

I just looked at some anatomy charts, and I would look at the Sacrum and lumbars for a problem. If the spasmed muscle is what is creating the problem, you should be able to feel it spasmed up. IIRC that is where the woman who had Vaginismus had a problem.


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So tweaking, you would apply the solution, then pump while it soaked in? I have done it for a few days now, I am not seeing a difference. I do seem to retract after I apply it because it “burns” to a small degree, nothing I cannot handle I just fan it off and it relaxes a bit.

Thank you for your advice Sparkyx, but I don’t understand the phrasing of this one part:

Originally Posted by sparkyx
I just looked at some anatomy charts, and I would look at the Sacrum and lumbars for a problem. If the spasmed muscle is what is creating the problem, you should be able to feel it spasmed up.


I should be able to feel it when? In what context? While I “look at the Sacrum and lumbars for a problem”? What would that entail? Thanks again. To clarify my perineum area (on the left side) is tensed, feels cramped and fatigued all the time. I have a lot of other tension through my pelvis, but I think it has arisen as a result of the tension in my perineum, which resulted after the injury to my penis. The pain is the cause, or at least a greatly exacerbating effect on the tension. The tension amplifies the pain, vicious circle.

Sparkyx

”Get a Power or Palm Mag by Nikken from ebay and try that. Ideally both, but either one even separately would be worth a go.”

I’m very interested in trying this out, for my constricted anus/pelvic floor muscles and firm flaccid which I’ve had for almost 2 years now. I was just wondering if you could explain what you mean by ideally using them both? Do you mean, use the palm mag in one hand and the powermag in the other, and go over the muscle with them both at the same time?

Thanks. :)

No, the PowerMag is the newer version of the PalmMag, either on is good. I suggest seeing a good Chiropractor first if you can find a good one, and have him check the lumbars and or the pelvis joints. If not, try one of those magnetic devices.

Either one of these MAY work if you have the perineum muscles spasming…its theoretical.

Originally Posted by jackman2020
Thank you for your advice Sparkyx, but I don’t understand the phrasing of this one part:

I should be able to feel it when? In what context? While I “look at the Sacrum and lumbars for a problem”? What would that entail? Thanks again. To clarify my perineum area (on the left side) is tensed, feels cramped and fatigued all the time. I have a lot of other tension through my pelvis, but I think it has arisen as a result of the tension in my perineum, which resulted after the injury to my penis. The pain is the cause, or at least a greatly exacerbating effect on the tension. The tension amplifies the pain, vicious circle.

Sounds like it is truly spasmed. If you can, try what I recommended. I would try a GOOD Chiro first, but make sure he is able to Adjust the bones, meaning he can find the stuck ones and get them moving better and correct the misalignment.

Originally Posted by Tweaking
Sparkyx, that is very intriguing. I don’t actually suffer from lower back pain (or even pelvic pain much - mostly discomfort) but my upper back and neck is and has been in a terrible state for years and years and seems to be slowly getting worse. I’ve seen a chiropractor before but he didn’t inspire me particularly so I didn’t bother going back, I think I need to find the right one. I’ve tried getting physio for the neck but it requires on going treatment for ages that I’ve never A. Properly committed to or B. Been able to afford.

What is this PowerMag thing you speak of? EDIT: I googled it. I couldn’t really get an idea of how it helps you. Do you apply it locally to an area of tension or just nearby you? What kind of therapeutic value are we talking here, like, do you think it would actually have a useful application in the pelvic area, which is fairly deep tissues?

I feel the same, I don’t have pelvic pain, just some kind of discomfort, my neck is in bad state, I crank my neck to release the discomfort/tension, I think that some of the tension is driven by the upper shoulder blades/trapezius, I feel the worst after I wake up, my neck is stiff, I can barely twist it. I lost some of my flexibility, I’m looking for a chiropractor and a new pillow (tried several).

Sparyx, Does chiropractors treat pelvic muscles? What do they use to treat it?


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Originally Posted by OsQ
I feel the same, I don’t have pelvic pain, just some kind of discomfort, my neck is in bad state, I crank my neck to release the discomfort/tension, I think that some of the tension is driven by the upper shoulder blades/trapezius, I feel the worst after I wake up, my neck is stiff, I can barely twist it. I lost some of my flexibility, I’m looking for a chiropractor and a new pillow (tried several).

Sparyx, Does chiropractors treat pelvic muscles? What do they use to treat it?

What I am talking about is that nerves exit the spine and go to organs, muscles, skin etc. If a motor nerve is being irritated as it exits the spine, those muscles will be effected, usually by increased tone or spasm. From just briefly looking, it appears that the nerves to those muscles exit the spinal levels in the lumbars (low back vertebra) and sacrum. THEREFORE, that would be the area that MAY be causing a chronic spasm in the pelvic muscles.

A Chiropractor (if he is good at adjusting the spine) should be able to feel the vertebra in that area and be able to tell if there is swelling at those joints and decreased motion. If he finds that, then he can apply a quick short force to those joints in order to move them into a better position and improve motion….this then can take the swelling out of that joint and relieve the irritation or “pinching” of those nerves that go to the muscles…and the spasm should start to reduce and hopefully go away.

This is all based on the possible premise that spasmed pelvic muscles may be causing or contributing to this condition. IF IT IS, then this is a possible approach.

I doubt that a pinched nerve in the neck can cause this problem, but its no fun to have constant neck pain and spasm…a good Chiro should be able to be very helpful with that.

Originally Posted by jackman2020
I have a lot of other tension through my pelvis, but I think it has arisen as a result of the tension in my perineum, which resulted after the injury to my penis. The pain is the cause, or at least a greatly exacerbating effect on the tension. The tension amplifies the pain, vicious circle.

It would have to be the other way ‘round. The spasm of the pelvic muscles have to result in the penile dysfunction, not the other way around. I don’t understand how an injury to the penis could cause pelvic muscle spasms.

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