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Deflated Glans and Firm Flaccid: Pelvic Floor Dysfunction

Originally Posted by Tossed Salad

My glans has never been hard or “full” during intercourse or during masturbation except when I’m about to ejaculate. Then it swells and gets hard. This is the case even if I masturbate twice a day every day of the week.

During the December period I didn’t masturbate or do any PE for around 2.5 weeks, but I did do kegels regularly. Eventually I had to rub one out and my glans was hard, full and sensitive.

I would consider this the ‘normal’ pattern for a majority of guys past their teens, and for a good percentage of teens too. If your glans doesn’t get hard when about to ejaculate, and you know it used to, then it’s worth looking into if it’s affecting glans sensitivity.

As the glans becomes full, it becomes more sensitive; that’s one of the physical reasons younger guys have more problems with premature ejaculation, and also one of the reasons why orgasms rapidly build in intensity.

Originally Posted by P-G
I think a ton of guys begin to notice normal anatomical variations in their penises when they get into PE and mistake them for pathology (e.g., because they see the glans engorged or hard during jelqing or clamping or pumping, they begin to think its soft, normal state is actually abnormal, or they read about thrombosed veins and think that their dorsal thickening is a serious injury).

This is so true. It’s a bit like people forget what their body was like before they started using the gym, or they forget how slow their own car is when they have been driving a sports car for a few days. The ‘thinking sensitivity has reduced’ is another quite common one.


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Protective role of the glans penis during coitus

D G Hatzichristou1, V Tzortzis1, K Hatzimouratidis1, A Apostolidis1, K Moysidis1 and S Panteliou2
1. 1Department of Urology and Center for Sexual and Reproductive Health, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki, Greece
2. 2Department of Mechanical Engineering and Aeronautics, University of Patras, Greece
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The glans penis is formed by the distal part of the corpus spongiosum, moulding over the distal rounded ends of the cavernous bodies.
Although structurally the glans consists of sinusoids similar to those of the corpora cavernosa, the absence of the tunica albuginea in the glans differentiates its functional role during erection.
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Haemodynamic studies have shown that during erection, not only the arterial inflow but also the venous outflow are increased in the glans, due to the lack of corporal veno-occlusive mechanism.

As a result, tumescence of the glans is noticed; however, it never becomes rigid.1,2 The functional significance of such observations remains unknown. It has been proposed that the engorged glans of the erect penis plays the role of ‘shock absorber’ during intercourse.
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In conclusion, the glans penis has a significant functional role, similar to the role that the glove plays for the boxers, restricting the high ICP* values developing during coitus. It is anticipated that such function protects both the corpora cavernosa and the female genitalia, preventing corporal trauma during episodes of high external axial loading and vaginal pain in erotic positions where the thresholds for pain tolerance are pronounced.”
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*intracavernosal pressure (ICP)
http://www.nature.com/ijir/journal/…l/3901039a.html

I have.. Ugh.. Whatever ‘this’ is. It used to bother me but I have come to accept it.


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Originally Posted by firegoat
…If your glans doesn’t get hard when about to ejaculate, and you know it used to, then it’s worth looking into if it’s affecting glans sensitivity.

What do you mean “worth looking into”?

Originally Posted by Tweaking

What do you mean “worth looking into”?

If it stays completely soft all the time, doesn’t fill at all, and isn’t improving with time, and is affecting your ‘performance’, see an urologist about it if you feel you should. Most guys instinctively know when it’s time to have a consultant take a look.


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Try edgeing to see if you can manipulate your glans into becoming hard.

Edgeing is mastubating just prior to the point of no Return, many times over an extended session, without ejaculation.


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It’s a mild leak.

Based on what I’ve seen around the place, it seem that urologists have nothing to say. I can certainly got expansion of the glans while I’m stimulated, it just doesn’t stay inflated for long after physical stimulation stops, which it used to.

There’s been a number of people who have said it was “venous leaks”, most of them are now Ex Members lol. You better be careful Owen :p

I’m at loss for what’s going on now. I’m getting degrees of the ‘firm flacid penis’ people have described, most of the day it feels kind of firm and is quite turtled, which doesn’t feel nice. But the other day when I masturbated (only doing it twice weekly atm), I measured myself at just a hair off 8” EL and EG bigger than I’ve seen it before as well, and the head was expanded pretty damn big. So, conflicting signals. I’m not getting much morning wood that I’m aware of, but that doesn’t surprise me since I’m not jelqing or even kegeling at the moment.

I can somewhat relate: I’ve noticed that both my head and CS have a “deflated” appearance unless I’m close to the point of no return. This has been bumming me out because when my CS is deflated, it reduces my girth measurements by about 0.5”. Also, a nice big head greatly improves the appearance of Mr. Happy. I recently (today) just started kegeling again and I hope that helps. It’s been about a half year since I last performed kegel exercises and I can tell I’ve lost a lot of muscle strength and control.


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Well its been over a month since I did any form of PEing. No noticeable changes except my EQ is down, and it’s caused me to spend less time on Thunder’s, neither of which are surprising. In fact I was with a girl last night and couldn’t maintain a decent enough erection to go through the with act. Which made me pretty misreble.

I was going to wait longer but after a month with no change and I’m not so sure. What do you guys think?

I have the same since a month or 2 .I did read tread about orange.. And it was like a reverse Jelq starting at the penis head.After I did it a couple of times my penis head don’t go hard anymore:( I hope it don’t take away to much pleasure for the ladies.

If you didn’t improve at all in 1 month I don’t now if it will improve.I myself try now when I jelq to push a lot of blood to the head,I don’t know if it will work.When I have my hand a certain way when I Clamp with my hand , difficult to explain my head get hard.

Originally Posted by Tweaking
Well its been over a month since I did any form of PEing. No noticeable changes except my EQ is down, and it’s caused me to spend less time on Thunder’s, neither of which are surprising. In fact I was with a girl last night and couldn’t maintain a decent enough erection to go through the with act. Which made me pretty misreble.

I was going to wait longer but after a month with no change and I’m not so sure. What do you guys think?


If the injury is tissue related, as opposed to a a direct vein outflow problem (we’re obviously not experts, but from what I can gather, they can both produce the same effect), it could take many months to heal. Even guys who have had tissue damage from surgery sometimes managed to see improvement as much as 6 to 12 months later. John7gains (sp?) reported improvement 2-4 months later, didn’t he?

Personally, I’d google for a urologist in your state that specializes in erectile dysfunction, as opposed to a general urologist, and try to get an appointment as soon as possible. This way, while continuing to rest, you can get the proper diagnostic tests to see exactly what’s going on. Penile anatomy is extremely complicated, and any speculation is likely to be useless.

Based on KC’s experience I think it’s unlikely any number of tests will reveal anything since I have the same symptoms as him, though it is possible.

The thought of taking 6 months off is not appealing to me. Not one bit. Especially when they’re might not actually be any point doing it. Especially when there’s plenty of other reports of people using jelqing and variations of it to improve glans inflation.

The best a urologist will tell me is to never PE again and it will heal. The worst is to never PE again and it might heal.

But you’re right in that technically any speculation is useless.

To be honest I’d be pretty afraid of explaining this issue to a urologist, not to mention my room mates, who happen to my my parents, since I’m still under their health care plan. In fact I’m unsure as to whether that’s feasible at all.

Also I just found this. The guy had no improvement after 3 years (but had never heard of PE). http://www.doctorslounge.com/fertil…opic-17778.html

He saw multiple uro’s and none of them were able to help or even diagnose.


Last edited by Tweaking : 04-07-2010 at .

Of course they’ll tell you never to PE again, but I doubt you’d want to do that right now anyway, and risk making it worse. But there is another possibility, between the best and worst, and that is finding out that it’s a correctible problem. Might not be easy, but if you pursue it, you’ve got a good chance. For example, if it did turn out to be a minor leak, there have been a couple of guys on this board who had successful surgery for this, by IV radiologists.

As for telling your parents, you don’t have to tell them about PE, just that you’ve recently developed this problem. In young guys, this problem does seem to be congenital. Steinkill, who was successfully treated, posted this comment from his specialist:

Originally Posted by steinkill
I know most people can’t believe a young person could had a problem like this. But a good doctor would be able to tell. From what my doctor said, sometimes even Doppler tests aren’t really accurate, in my case the test indicated a mild leakage, but when he was operating he was amazed at the thickness of my vein, he actually said he never saw a worst case in his career (he actually specializes in venous leakage and wrote a book about this, not mentioning thousand of operations).

So just give it a go man, it can’t hurt, even if you don’t have a 100% recuperation, it’s going to be worth it, trust me, this whole episode was the most frustrating thing that could happen in my life, I’m glad it’s over now.

Edit: I too was worried about causing my venous leakage (using rubber bands, rough PE techniques. Etc). But my doctor said most venous leakage are genetic (family history of varicose veins), in my case the doctor said it looked like I had a double deep dorsal vein (it was actually a thick vein with a huge branch).

So if that’s the case, it could very well happen from sex or masterbation. I think sooner would be better than later, so if at all possible, you may want to consider this option. I wish you luck.

Thankyou CG. You’ve been immensely useful.

I just went to the thread you got that steinkill quote from, going to read through it. From what I can tell, it appears that this issue IS IN FACT VENOUS LEAKAGE albeit comparatively minor to some of the horror storys I’ve seen in the past. That’s quite clear to me now, and pressing down on the dorsal vein while erect does seem to prevent the glans from deflating.

So I guess it’s good to have a diagnosis, but its a slightly depressing one. I wonder if PE actually has any effect on venous leakage.

QsQ talks about ‘interventionalist urologists’. I’ll have to look into that.

I’m too young for this shit :(

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