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Deflated Glans and Firm Flaccid: Pelvic Floor Dysfunction

I’d also like to add that the reason that no urologists can find anything wrong with a firm-flaccid penis even after scans and blood tests is because this is a completely psychological problem. This is also why any doctor you go to will believe that the penis is normal until you try to convince them otherwise.

I reject that completely. If you read through this thread I believe you would also come to find the issue is not psychological, though the possibility exists that neurology plays a role.

To overcome depersonalisation is a pretty fantastic feat, however I do not believe it to be equatable to what we’re dealing with here.

Reports by Thunders members have given a number of descriptions of their individual doppler-sounding diagnostic tests, while it is true that some of those people’s doctor’s could find no physical damage, in other cases, and sometimes when the person simply tried a different doctor, they did observe vascular damage within the penis. Yataghan50 claimed that after finding such damage in a ‘problem vein’, he found an interventional radiologist who then ligated the vein, resulting in immediate alleviation (not 100%) of the symptoms (Yataghan50 - Deflated Glans/Firm Flaccid/V. Hard Shaft Possible Venous Leakage).

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Originally Posted by pooper11
I’d also like to add that the reason that no urologists can find anything wrong with a firm-flaccid penis even after scans and blood tests is because this is a completely psychological problem. This is also why any doctor you go to will believe that the penis is normal until you try to convince them otherwise.

Or.

It’s a completey physical problem, as I and many others on here KNOW it is, and it’s rooted in the neurology of the penis, which I personally believe it is, which wouldn’t show on an MRI or a Doppler Study.

I believe I have pudendal nerve compression somewhere. Why? Because my penis AND scrotum went numb as soon soon as my penis went flaccid after my one and only jelqing session. Had I damaged the dorsal nerve or any other nerve in the penis itself there’d be no reason for it to affect the sensation in the scrotum as you can see from this diagram:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?source=…v-WZz0AR6U8WuIQ

Having been an extremely virile individual with a strong libido and no history of ED or any penis related issue prior to this I’ve now had hard/flaccid, 80% loss of sensation in penis and scrotum, 1ins loss of girth, 1 ins loss of length and erectile dysfunction for 17 months now with no improvement. All this happened IMMEDIATELY after I had jelqed for a minute. Only an idot would believe that is a “completely psychological problem”.

Neurology. Neurology. Neurology. That’s the key.

Originally Posted by willy wonka
Or.

It’s a completey physical problem, as I and many others on here KNOW it is, and it’s rooted in the neurology of the penis, which I personally believe it is, which wouldn’t show on an MRI or a Doppler Study.

I believe I have pudendal nerve compression somewhere. Why? Because my penis AND scrotum went numb as soon soon as my penis went flaccid after my one and only jelqing session. Had I damaged the dorsal nerve or any other nerve in the penis itself there’d be no reason for it to affect the sensation in the scrotum as you can see from this diagram:

Http://www.google.co.uk/url?source=…v-WZz0AR6U8WuIQ

Having been an extremely virile individual with a strong libido and no history of ED or any penis related issue prior to this I’ve now had hard/flaccid, 80% loss of sensation in penis and scrotum, 1ins loss of girth, 1 ins loss of length and erectile dysfunction for 17 months now with no improvement. All this happened IMMEDIATELY after I had jelqed for a minute. Only an idot would believe that is a “completely psychological problem”.

Neurology. Neurology. Neurology. That’s the key.

And nerve compression causes hypertension and lack of blood flow?

Apparently you KNOW what is wrong with you, but for some reason you haven’t gone to a doctor and told him? Or has he told you that you were wrong?

Originally Posted by Tweaking
I reject that completely. If you read through this thread I believe you would also come to find the issue is not psychological, though the possibility exists that neurology plays a role.

To overcome depersonalisation is a pretty fantastic feat, however I do not believe it to be equatable to what we’re dealing with here.

Reports by Thunders members have given a number of descriptions of their individual doppler-sounding diagnostic tests, while it is true that some of those people’s doctor’s could find no physical damage, in other cases, and sometimes when the person simply tried a different doctor, they did observe vascular damage within the penis. Yataghan50 claimed that after finding such damage in a ‘problem vein’, he found an interventional radiologist who then ligated the vein, resulting in immediate alleviation (not 100%) of the symptoms (Yataghan50 - Deflated Glans/Firm Flaccid/V. Hard Shaft Possible Venous Leakage).

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You think it’s a vein problem, he thinks it’s a nerve problem, other people think it’s psychology.

And again, if it is a vein problem, why haven’t you gotten it fixed.. Yesterday?

Primarily because I am in the process of trying to learn more and gather information on possible non-surgical solutions, several of which have been suggested in this thread. Secondarily I’m gathering information to present to any urologist I see in the future to help convince him that yes in fact there is a problem. Since ligation of penile veins is basically unheard of it is difficult to find a willing interventional radiologist, but not impossible.

In my case, and in most people suffering from this issue, it is not crippling by any means and the penis still operates, just at reduced sensitivity/enjoyment. So since so little clear information is available, and I for one, do not wish to quit PEing, I am continuing to PE (which in my personal experience has a positive effect on the glans/CS) untill I achieve my goals before I begin to consider the surgical option.

From what Wonka has said, it sounds like his injury is diffierent from the standard soft-glans syndrome stereotype, from the sounds of it, he has fairly serious nerve damage which may account for all his symptoms or he may have nerve and vein damage.

Originally Posted by Tweaking
Primarily because I am in the process of trying to learn more and gather information on possible non-surgical solutions, several of which have been suggested in this thread. Secondarily I’m gathering information to present to any urologist I see in the future to help convince him that yes in fact there is a problem. Since ligation of penile veins is basically unheard of it is difficult to find a willing interventional radiologist, but not impossible.

In my case, and in most people suffering from this issue, it is not crippling by any means and the penis still operates, just at reduced sensitivity/enjoyment. So since so little clear information is available, and I for one, do not wish to quit PEing, I am continuing to PE (which in my personal experience has a positive effect on the glans/CS) untill I achieve my goals before I begin to consider the surgical option.

From what Wonka has said, it sounds like his injury is diffierent from the standard soft-glans syndrome stereotype, from the sounds of it, he has fairly serious nerve damage which may account for all his symptoms or he may have nerve and vein damage.

Please don’t speculate like that until you can answer this question.

First look at this picture:

http://www.ajronline.org/content/vo…AC1357_02A.jpeg

Now ask yourself the question? If he has damaged the nerve in his penis why is he feeling the same numbness in his scrotum when they are two different strands of the pudendal nerve??

It’s like damaging a nerve in your little finger and feeling numbness in your thumb. Completely different strands that makes no sense.

See my last post in this thread: heisberg - Jelqing has destroyed my life A warning. to hear what one of the UK’s top urologists thinks about “nerve damage” in response to my situation.

Originally Posted by pooper11
And nerve compression causes hypertension and lack of blood flow?

Apparently you KNOW what is wrong with you, but for some reason you haven’t gone to a doctor and told him? Or has he told you that you were wrong?

Are doctors always right then? Do doctors know your body better than you?

Just answer me this. If it’s a pyschological issue as you believe, how is it possible for such a thing to arise after one minute’s jelqing and 27 years of being completely fine in that department.

One minute I’m fine >> I do one minute’s jelqing >> I’m immediately numb, smaller, harder when flaccid and unable to keep hold of an erection.

Explain how pyschology has caused that…..please…..because I think it’s bizarre to believe after reading those facts that is anything other than physical.

I got this yesterday.. Fuck, my first pe injury.. I know I got it from doing horses. I won’t do them again.. I was gonna see a girl to fuck so I got a bit carried away and did the horses to hard I guesse. I’m just gonna rest my dick and see if it heals naturally.

Originally Posted by pooper11
It does not seem to be a physical issue, but more like a psychological one based around anxiety/depression (either or) and mood/relaxation. I believe it to be similar in manifestation to where sometimes one’s penis seems to shrink when it is time to measure it, performance anxiety causing ED, and depression causing a lack of sexual arousal.

Penises have been known to contract after PE as a natural physical response, this can cause anxiety. Persistent muscle tension is a known symptom of anxiety. Anxiety has also been known to cause cold hands/feet due to lack of blood flow to the extremities, including the penis.

To prove further that it is caused by a lack of blood flow, think about how the penis normally shrinks into a firm flaccid states when exposed to cold.

As far as treatment goes, think about the usual non-medicated treatment of depersonalization/derealization. Both of those disorders are caused by high levels of anxiety. They are persistent disorders. These are usually cured when the person suffering learns to surrender to their disorder, and eventually stop worrying about it, and by it’s own nature it will disappear.

Here is a link: http://www.articlesbase.com/non-fic…tion-29376.html

To conclude, it seems as though firm-flaccid can be seen as persistent performance anxiety, which can be overcome by removing all anxiety and tension surrounding the issue and becoming relaxed. Do not think about the issue, or ever remind yourself of it, and it will disappear. Do not even take note of state of the state of your penises while pissing, this wouldn’t be considered normal had you not heard of this issue, and is a sign of anxiety. If you still have the urge to check your penis, you still have the anxiety.

Nope, that’s a completely different sensation, proof that you yourself don’t actually understand the term “firm flaccid”.

My penis used to retract and go smaller when it was cold, it did not, however, go hard like an erection in the flaccid state like it is now.

Just thought I’d chime in and say my dick is steadily recovering.. After about 8 days it seemed to get a bit better and one day I found myself with a nice full head mid day, then the next day I woke up with morning wood.. I was.. Happy!

Hey warrior .. Thats good to hear :) so have you just been resting it completely?

I tried to rest it as much as I could but still had a couple of wanks here and there. I’m not gonna do any PE for a good while though.

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