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Bad Start

Hi all. Good to be back here after a really long time. Guess about 4 years now. Well.. I kicked off once again a month ago with about 100 jelqs at about 80% and within 15 days I was doing about 150 Jelqs. I threw in very mild clamping(with a “ok grip” using my finger) about 2 mins x 1 set for the last 7 days. I did the jelq routine almost every weekday and i rested Saturday and Sunday.. After 30 days I decided to take a week off (which was last week). I now find that my unit is very limp. I cant get it up more than 40-50%. I have no morning wood and I don’t get spontaneous hard-ons. Its like my dick is dead. I had to work on getting it up !

Any brilliant ideas to revive it quickly?


Walk slowly but never backwards.

Don’t touch it for two weeks. Once morning wood comes back, pretty sure you will be alright. Good luck!

I have noticed something recently that I never quite got before, but it explains a lot.

It seems some PE will increase EQ, but then it will get to the point where the penis adapts, and actually causes a drop in EQ if you keep it at the same level. HOWEVER, if you up the amount, EQ will go up again.

So, the way to tell, is if you have had improved EQ with PE, but you EQ starts to drop without you having changed your routine, take a day or three off. IF the PE was too much, EQ will spring right back. IF it was too little, EQ will stay down and take a week or more of doing nothing to begin to come back.

HOWEVER, if it was way too much, it might take a week off to begin to improve also.

I think its this little weird response of modest PE causing a drop in EQ when your penis adapts that throws some real confusion in figuring out what is happening, and leading some guys to back off when they actually should increase.

Thanks and appreciate your feedback .

Maybe, I will take a small break and hope it gets better.

Sparky, Did you think a 100 jelqs has the potential to over strain my unit?? maybe?


Walk slowly but never backwards.

I also think that changing the type of PE helps prevent EQ loss— pumping, hanging, clamping, jelqing— all seem to impact EQ positively [for me] and diffferently.


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Have you experienced any visible signs of trauma from going overboard such as red spots or other bruising?


The primary goal of PE should be to make your penis as healthy as possible in both form and function. If you do that, increased size will follow.

Originally Posted by godofdeviltry
Thanks and appreciate your feedback .

Maybe, I will take a small break and hope it gets better.

Sparky, Did you think a 100 jelqs has the potential to over strain my unit?? maybe?


Who knows, everyone is so different.

I would say go by past experience. If 100 was fine before, and now it appears to be too much, a couple days off will tell you. If your EQ comes roaring back, then it was too much. IF after a couple days, EQ drops even more, then it was probably too little.

I found this out experimenting with water pumping. I like pumping or hanging for research because you can accurately quantify the force. When you use manual force like with pulling and jelquing, your forces can be all over the place and you won’t know it.

So, anyway, I found 5 in hg for 10 minutes was improving my EQ. Then, it started to drop. I backed off and it got worse. Normally, I would assume I needed a longer rest period. Of course, if I had taken a couple weeks off, it would have allowed my EQ to return to normal regardless if I was over or under training.

Well, this one time, I decided to up the vacuum to 6 in hg just for an experiment, and sure enough EQ jumped up higher! This was an eye opener for me! So I realized that many times when I backed off, I should have been increasing….this explained a lot of past experiment failures for me.

Using this new understanding, I would stay at 6 in hg until EQ started to drop, then reduce it to 5 in hg (assuming it dropped at 6 in hg because of over training). When EQ started to drop at 5, I would go up to 6 again, and just cycle like that. This allowed me to keep EQ high, and was a real eye opener! It explained a lot of EQ phenomenon I have observed in the past and didn’t comprehend what the heck was going on.

So, when you start with a baseline that is improving EQ, stay with it until you see a drop in EQ. If you were able to do it for more than a few days without a sudden drop of EQ, chances are its not way too much. Way too much will drop it in one or two days.

So, if its a reasonable amount of PE, and you find EQ is starting to drop ( and EQ IS NOT just how hard you are, read the thread if you don’t know that) then you can either up the PE about 10% or drop it, your choice. IF you move in the correct direction (backing off if you are over trained, or INCREASING if you are under training) then your EQ should pop back up immediately in a day, two at the most.

This should really help sort out your workout.

Good luck!


Last edited by sparkyx : 03-17-2011 at .

Rest your unit, and make sure to have rest days built into your workouts. This is a marathon, not a sprint.


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Originally Posted by sparkyx

….and EQ IS NOT just how hard you are, read the thread if you don’t know that)

Do you mean the thread linked in your sig line sparkyx?


Forte est vinum fortior est rex fortiores sunt mulieres super omnia vincit veritas: "Wine is strong, a king is stronger, women are stronger still, but truth conquers all" (1 Esdras, chapters 3 & 4)

Originally Posted by Sporran
Do you mean the thread linked in your sig line sparkyx?

Right.

The EQ thread was written as a way to maximize the positive PIs. Misunderstanding of it has now become endemic here, and it cripples its ability to help you fine tune your workout in a significant way. You can have good hardness, but poor EQs in the other catagories, indicating a overall drop of EQ. IF you just think its hardness, you can continue to overtrain and be unaware of it, and be totally confused as to why you aren’t gaining.

Damn shame, but there is really nothing I can do at this point to turn it around, except advise people to read the thread.

Thanks sparkyx. That’s useful.


Forte est vinum fortior est rex fortiores sunt mulieres super omnia vincit veritas: "Wine is strong, a king is stronger, women are stronger still, but truth conquers all" (1 Esdras, chapters 3 & 4)

Originally Posted by gprent
Have you experienced any visible signs of trauma from going overboard such as red spots or other bruising?

No. I have not. When i was working my Unit, I would get good erections. Absolutely no visible trauma at all.

I have now rested for almost a week since my first post here but I dont see any significant improvement.
My dick made a feeble attempt to get hard when I saw a nice pairs of knockers last evening but didnt hold itself up for more than an couple of mins. Maybe its a good sign of revival? I’m missing the rock hard erections though..

I’ve done PE for a few years. This is an one-off experience.


Walk slowly but never backwards.

Originally Posted by godofdeviltry

No. I have not. When I was working my Unit, I would get good erections. Absolutely no visible trauma at all.

Didn’t they make a TV show about you? The Unit?


WE are the 99% 'WE are the people you depend on; we cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Don't f&ck with us'-- Madame DeFarge

"Rope trades @$10 a yard. I wonder if they even know that?"- Capitalist

Originally Posted by androNYC
Didn’t they make a TV show about you? The Unit?

Sorry mate. I don’t follow American TV :)


Walk slowly but never backwards.

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