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Couldn’t get it up with a new girly (at night and in morning)! I know, stuff like this just happens. Nevertheless I want to turn this pain into something useful, like making a plan and executing it that is good for my erection levels and my health in general. I don’t have an hardcore erectile dysfunction problem per se (had no probl. With last gf). So this is ‘just’ tuning. On the other hand, my erections have never been very strong, hardly ever morning wood.

My goal: maximizing my hornyness and having easier-to-come and harder erections

The following I came up with [read on other boards and searched posts here] – *any* comments are very much appreciated!
-> I know that arginine and supplements there is a whole forum for it, so this thread is probably better to discuss the ‘lifestyle’, ‘sports’ and ‘while sex’ things but as I said I appreciate all!

Sports:
- 30min running every like 3rd day (‘oxygen mode’ getting the blood pumpin for a bit; anyone knows studies or so for optimal times per week and how long?)
- Every second day strength training legs (squads, 2 sets, currently with no weights but as often as I can (100now); read somewhere more blood for legs = more blood for genitals, also read something about it being good for testosterone)
(Also do push ups)

Supplements:
- 2g arginin in morning and 2g in the evening (I am 58kg; you know arginin)
- Ginseng 400mg 8% daily
(Also take green tea extract and omega3 1000mg)

PE-related:
- Kegels: short ones (1sec hold, 1sec release) while I brush my teeth
- 10min jelq every day (is there a better thing – eg clamping – for erectile dysfunction stuff? I guess no one knows for sure so I stick with standard jelq. Longer is better? Or more often shorter)

Lifestyle: (some inspired from jeans joe at fastsed)
1- no looking at pornos anymore (theory that you then appreciate real not so perfect women more then)
2- masturbate with orgasm only Sundays (or 7days after last sex, write in calendar; kinda experienced and read that after like a week of restraining masturbation the hornyness does not rise but fall. A bit unsure about this one. Also read somewhere that masturbating can increase hornyness for sex. But how much.)
3- masturbation technique: training to relax and get myself up having a really good erection without ‘forcing it’, without porn
4- in daily life: looking at females and concentrating on the things that makes me horny (eg body parts, fucking her in my mind)
5- sitting on a gymnastic ball instead on a chair (already had this one but didn’t use so often. Should train all the core muscles down there, around the pc. Guess not just sitting is needed but sitting kinda straight, even moving the ball while you sit; read somewhere that in cultures where they sit on the floor instead of chairs the women have much stronger pc muscles and more)
[6- sleeping well]

Diet:
Nothing special. I am on the ‘healthy’ trip anyway, I eat practically no sweets, only bread, meat, many vegetables.
No smoking, few alcohol (like 2 drinks in a week)

While sex:
- Only care about what makes myself horny
- Talking dirty to her what I wanna do
- Command her to do the things that you like; show her how you like her doing it
- Focus on the things (bodyparts, noises, sounds…) that make me horny
- Have no shame
- Eventually tell her that I am just a bit stressed, have thousand thoughts in my head and need some time to relax

What I consider trying in future:
- Meditation tape: where she talks about relaxing your whole body and then feeling your penis erect; anti stress
- ‘Rockhard erection salad with from northstar’ (eat Couliflower, cabbage and olive oil; raises testosterone) The Rock Hard Erection Salad.
- Seeing an urologist (wonder will he be help for just ‘not so hard’ 80% erections and hardly ever morning wood?)

Sounds a good plan.

Can I just suggest a few other things?

Get your blood pressure, cholesterol checked. Also get a diabetes test, all are free in most places. You should get these checked before starting exercise.

Another few simple things. Remember to be drinking enough water a day, 2 litres. Also, remember, 5 fruit and veg a day if possible.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

Under your ‘While sex’ listing, no where do you put your focus on her. Maybe re-examine that?

I’ll also say ‘commanding’ people during the act is a mixed proposition. It really depends on the relationship. Some people really don’t appreciate being ordered around under any circumstances, some do. I think you make a mistake to try and generalize your part of a sexual dynamic in the form of a dogmatic approach like that.

As far as erection strength, one of the better exercises you can perform for yourself is The Wet Towel. This is when you get an erection and you place a wet towel over it and do Kegel repitions to lift the towel. Obviously it doesn’t have to be a wet towel, but something that’s relatively comfortable and has enough weight to give your erection resistance. You do three sets of ten daily and your erections should get harder.

Your regular physical exercise sounds pretty good, although if you really want to help to improve your aerobic function, which does indeed have a direct impact on erection quality, you will do more aerobic activity. A good plan is to alternate weight training days with aerobic days - so that means high intensity cardio about three times a week. You want to do it for at least 20 minutes, and you want to get your heart rate up to 80% for about 10 of those 20 minutes. 80% depends on your age and weight, many of the various machines have a graph to help you calculate it.

The supplements you’re taking are good and you’re taking reasonable doses (FYI: It’s spelled arginine not arginin). If you kick up the DHA component of the fish oil that should help with arousal. Carlson’s Super DHA 500 twice a day with meals might be worth a try in addition to what you’re taking now. Quicker arousal, however, can present difficulties in the stamina department, so it’s especially important to really monitor your arousal levels during the act as well, so you don’t become a quick shooter.

If you’re having erection difficutlies I’d recommend to keep with the Kegels and the moderate Jelqing and avoid clamping altogether. Clamping is the riskiest of the PE practices and done wrong can lead to serious erection problems; even done right it’s unlikely to help your problem much.

As far as avoiding porn and fantasizing about passerby. Sure. Ok. But don’t replace your difficulty with some sort of monomaniacal desire. There is a danger to focusing so intently on your problem: you can make the problem worse.

The meditation sounds like a good idea, but it can’t be done for the sole purpose of this issue. For that to be effective you’d need to approach meditation from a whollistic standpoint of helping to get your existence to a more relaxed and centered place. Yoga would be a good addendum to your exercise program because it not only helps with gaining a meditative centeredness, but it also keys in to your breathing, which will feed any aerobic work you might do.


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Thanks!

Ruz_:

Data from 4 month ago:

Total cholesterol: 152 mg/dl (says 200 is ‘should be maximum’)

They also checked blood pressure there, I guess it was ok.

I easily eat 5 vegs per day.

Mr. Happy:

Yeah, the ‘while sex’ thing, I am probably generalizing. My thoughts were that total focus on my wants and doing it, basically really focusing on my pleasure is the best for my erection and makes some good sex.

As many here I guess I come from the frame of wanting to do ‘the best job’ and reading sex books after sex book, I have a doc with stuff listed to try… definitely mixed results trying certain ‘techniques’. Now I want to try this other approach more, being more my ‘animalistic’ :) self.

The cardio approach you wrote of is very interesting to me. So I would do EG 15min aerobe (being able to speak while training), then 10min anaerobe (not super-intense but more intense, not being able to speak properly while at it), then 5min cooldown?

Originally Posted by AntiMike
The cardio approach you wrote of is very interesting to me. So I would do EG 15min aerobe (being able to speak while training), then 10min anaerobe (not super-intense but more intense, not being able to speak properly while at it), then 5min cooldown?

I’m not sure what this means.

I was thinking in terms of a minimum of three days a week doing aerobic exercise for a minimum of 20 minutes, but more likely around 40 minutes to an hour. Somewhere toward the middle of such a workout you want to pull your heart rate up to 80% of it’s max and sustain that for at least ten minutes. If you’re 20 years old and in good health that would be around 172 beats per minute (bpm), if you’re 40 years old that may be more like 160 bpm. Many aerobic machines (treadmills, elliptical machines, stairmasters, etc.) have charts to help you calculate this. It is always wise to pull yourself out of that sort of exercise by going back to a normal exertion and then doing a cool-down.

The main point is to get your hear strong. A strong heart means strong erections.


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

As far as I’m aware 80% of MHR is considered within the anaerobic threshold.

I’d suggest 70% - ish for aerobic workouts, perhaps less if you are not conditioned.


01/08/07: 5.75" BPEL, 5.25" EG ::: 26/05/10: 7.3" BPEL, 5.4" MSEG, [My Progress Pics] - [My Routine]

Revised Min Final Objective: [/b] 7.75" BPEL (33% increase), 5.5" MSEG

On the subject of working out, I am usually affraid to run a lot, because normally my flacid size is decently fat and long, since iv been PEing, but every time I run my dick gets shrinkage. I’m not used to it being so thin looking, and I’m affraid that doing that too much will perminantly make it thinner. What do you guys think? Is it normal to get shrinkage when running, and what will it do to my dick if I keep doing it anyways?

I know that running can help increase PE gains, but at what price? Am I sacrificing the hard work I put into my girth, in order to run. Will it thin my dick out by running too much? Cause I notice when I do jelqing right after I run, the hard on seems to be waaaaayyy harder, but also, seems to be slightly thinner.

Any commentary on this?

Originally Posted by thick17

On the subject of working out, I am usually afraid to run a lot, because normally my flaccid size is decently fat and long since I’ve been PEing, but every time I run my dick gets shrinkage. I’m not used to it being so thin looking, and I’m afraid that doing that too much will permanently make it thinner. What do you guys think? Is it normal to get shrinkage when running, and what will it do to my dick if I keep doing it anyways?

I know that running can help increase PE gains, but at what price? Am I sacrificing the hard work I put into my girth, in order to run. Will it thin my dick out by running too much? Cause I notice when I do jelqing right after I run, the hard on seems to be waaaaayyy harder, but also, seems to be slightly thinner.


Any commentary on this?

My first comment is to use spell check. What the hell, right? It takes two seconds and it makes your post look better. :leftie:

Running, or other aerobic exercise, is not going to make anyones dick smaller on a permanent basis.

It will just temporarily alter the flaccid size. There is a normal fluctuation of flaccid size, which is connected to where the body needs blood the most. If your are exerting yourself and blood is needed elsewhere, the penis will retract a bit. This retraction also serves to protect the penis.

In other words, it’s completely normal and nothing to worry about.

One should not give up exercise while on a PE program. A healthy and strong heart has far too many benefits in terms of overall health, including erection strength. High quality erections indicate strong blood flow, which is helpful to PE overall. It’s an important part of what we’re aiming for.

PE is a long process, some gains take a while to become permanent. If you are losing any size, it’s probably lymph fluid which may build up in the penis after intense jelqing, clamping or pumping; those aren’t real girth gains anyway. The running, and resultant blood flow, will flush the penis out. This is a good thing. It helps maintain the health of the organ.

I’d bet it isn’t “slightly thinner”, if anything I’d bet it’s slightly thicker, especially if you are “waaaaayyy harder”. The harder you are the more blood you have filling your penis. If anything that is likely to make you a little larger.

You ever measure to see what’s really going on?


Before: I'd like to show you something I'm very proud of, but you'll have to move real close.

After: I\'d like to show you something I\'m very proud of, but you guys in the front row will have to stand back.

God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same time. - Robin Williams (:

That’s a really good point! I DO notice that after a good jelq or clamp, or some uli work outs, my dick seems swelled and thicker, but also softer. I always thought that it was really getting thicker and just needed to stay fat and cement itself that way. I have always been so frustrated with the way it eventually swells down after a while. I thought I was gaining and losing girth over and over again. Considering this, I know I have gained in girth, but I must not have gained as much as I always thought. Very insightful.

Another thing I notice is that when I was first starting to jelq and uli, I could feel the skin and blood caverns ripping as I squeezed the blood up as hard as I could. It was probably about the first year that I saw the most REAL increases in my girth. After that it started to feel less and less ripping and stretching inside as I pushed the blood as hard as I could; along with it, I noticed less and less gains. At this point I have to wait about 3 or 4 days to see it look cemented, and then I can feel the tear of the work out, but it has been about a year since I have seen a really gooooood increase in any PERMANENT gain in girth.

Another question to leave the readers with: does stretching also stretch the girth away. I have heard that it does, but am not sure about it. I have also noticed that one day, it’s ROCK hard at one girth, and the next day when I stretch for 10 to 20 minutes flaccid, the following erection is also rock hard, but slightly thinner until I uli jelq it, or uli stretch it.

I have also heard that long excessive amounts of time spent stretching will increase the base girth. So which is it? Does it stretch it away, or add to it?

Got to go. I’ll be back later. Mean time, leave a comment.

Never mind, I went back and read the post on another thread and answered my own question. I guess there’s nothing to worry about. Stretching and widening don’t cancel each other out according to all the sources I read in that thread. I have to say, this is the most insightful and helpful place on the net I have EVER come across, (or anywhere for that matter). Big ups to thunder and all the people that helped make this place what it is. Ill let the skinny take over for a few weeks and concentrate on making my dick more healthy for now, so that the gains can gradually come. I think that for the longest I have just been over doing it. Anxiety can be a major competitor with success.

Right now, 6 in girth. But it is also right after a jelq, so ill let it subside. I’m going running right now, so ill measure it’s “harder” and more cemented girth when I get back from my run. I’m assuming the true girth that I will find will be something like 5.8 or so. Ill be back in an hour to post.

Another thing that’s great about this place, is you can write down your progress weekly or monthly, or however you like, on the site, and it keeps things very simple and organized.

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